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.. mixture of A and B. He absolutely did not support the Rose Avenue extension. He felt Alternative B without Rose Avenue was a good starting point to begin looking at land use. He also commented on the statement that Stoneridge is necessary to give people in Livermore access to the hospital. He has never heard a proposal not to have EVA access from EI Charro to Stoneridge. Commissioner Maas acknowledged all the great ideas that have been raised at this meeting. She supported having two definitions for cut-through traffic. Regional is clear cut, and she agreed that when going to the post office or grocery story and a driver does not take the most direct route, it should be classified as cut-through. She favored a combination of all three Alternatives, but especially of A and B. She suggested sifting through each and throw out the least favored options. She said she could not totally discard the Stone ridge extension. As a resident and neighbor she can understand the concerns, but as a Planning Commissioner she must consider what is good for all of Pleasanton. She hoped there could be a creative way of making the situation work for all parties. If it means removing the bridge at this time, but leaving the extension in the General Plan, then she wanted to consider that. If the extension is removed from the General Plan, it will probably never get put back in. Just as if lighted sports fields are not built before residences are built, they will never be installed. She was not in favor of the Rose Avenue extension. The bottom line is she did not want to lose the flavor of Pleasanton. When one looks at all the traffic signals and street widenings, that is not what the city is all about. Council member Brozosky agreed it was a good idea to look at other cities to see what they have done. The idea is to learn and not just accept what they have. Cut-through is newer terminology and he felt it would be a good idea to see what has been done. He believed having two definitions would be a good thing. He disagreed with the comment that if Stone ridge extension is taken out of the General Plan that it could never be put back in. If transportation funding is found to make all the improvements for Highway 84 and 1-580 and traffic is moving fine, then perhaps the Stoneridge extension could be a good idea, but he doubted it. He did not want to keep the extension in the Plan now and keep everyone worrying about it at every meeting. The idea of having a split road would only pull more drivers from other roads and neighborhoods. The issue is not traffic on Stoneridge, but traffic in the whole city. He felt the best way to improve traffic in the city is to improve the traffic signals. Some times of the day they work well and at others there are too many delays. People can accept some congestion at 5:00 p.m. but not at 2:00 p.m. or 11 :00 p.m. when they are sitting at red lights for no reason it seems. He did not want to add 23 new traffic signals. Just because a signal works at Vineyard and Montevino, does not mean it would work at other locations in the city. He agreed with Ms. Maas that he did not want to change the flavor of the city. He did not want all streets widened, medians removed, bike lanes removed, and signals everywhere. He had concerns about widening Bernal Avenue as described in Alternative B. He believed it would preclude bike lanes and he felt over the years, it has gotten more dangerous for bicyclists. If the Fair Board does not agree to the Rose Avenue extension, then he felt it should be removed from the General Plan. There is not enough money to fund the top five transportation projects, why add more projects. Focus on what can be done and move on. He wanted more information about the proposed Busch Road widening. Would that pull more people onto Valley Avenue? Valley and Santa Rita is already a problem. Most of what is in Alternative B he is not in favor of, so he supported Alternative A with fewer stoplights. Councilmember McGovern asked staff if they had reviewed the definitions in Livermore and Dublin? Mr. Swift tried to categorize the different kinds of traffic in Pleasanton and how the streets have been used in the past. He tried to draft a definition that would lead to policy language for adoption. Joint Workshop City Council/Planning Commission 14 08/30/05