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Ms. McGovern referred to the regional improvements that were to be done as --- part of the 1996 General Plan, some of which have not been done. She asked if staff included those regional improvements when it reviewed the plan. Mr. Swift said most of Highway 84 improvements were deleted for the model presented at this workshop, In addition, the six-lane expressway for Isabel is not included. Mr. Sullivan said looking at all these options does not mean anything until decisions are made on various combinations. He hoped to get to that point sooner rather than later. Mr. Swift said staff hoped to get to that point, but it wanted to present information on what shifts could happen, all things being equal, knowing that what is really to be decided are the multiple changes to both network and land use. For example, when one looks at the West Las Positas interchange, if you look at a citywide map, you can show that even though everything else is equal, including Rose Avenue, traffic changes on Hopyard and various other streets. That gives an idea of where traffic would go with other improvements already there. If you start taking away more than one thing, then traffic is going to shift again, but at least you will have some idea of where the origins and destinations are, which is the first thing shown, and what routes may be available to accommodate that. Mr. Brozosky said there is a General Plan that we know does not work. He did - - not want to be consistent with it. He could see the reason for showing how things are removed from the 1996 Plan and making certain the EIR process is correct. Mr. Sullivan clarified that he wanted to make certain the EIR is not challenged legally by taking something out before the plan is reviewed with it included. He believed that was required for the EIR process. Mr. Brozosky suggested selecting one area, such as an intersection with Santa Rita, and really go into detail about the traffic and how staff determines where it comes from and where it is going and what is cut through. He would like one sheet of paper listing all the assumptions used in the model: the expected growth, the roads around the city, Vallecitos Road, 580 HOT lanes, etc. He would like something that looks at a large segment of road rather than an intersection, for example how long does it take to get from one part of Santa Rita to another part. He would not mind a level of service F at one intersection if he know the rest of the route would be much faster. He felt people were more concerned about how long it takes to get from point A to point B in the city. Mayor Hosterman commented that staff has heard comments from people who are concerned that the General Plan update is done right and that traffic is thoroughly addressed. There needs to be a thorough understanding of the implications of the EIR and there are some concerns about the process. She asked staff to review other options. She was comfortable with the methodology presented. She referred to the request to get ail assumptions on one page and felt that was possible in the future, but _ _ maybe not by the next workshop. She felt it was important to allow staff to go through the staff reports at the workshops to help inform the entire community. She then invited public comment.