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unenforceable up to 65 mph. People feel that the City makes a lot of money on citations, but examination of the budget does not show much money coming into the City of Pleasanton. Ms. McKeehan said the City does receive some revenue, but it is very minor. Mayor Pico said the time spent with the officers having to go to court to try to testify about a citation that is unsupportable vastly exceeds the amount of revenue we get as a City. This is not a revenue generating situation; it is an issue of safety. Mr. Bmzosky asked if all judges will throw out all of these tickets if they are over the 85th percentile. Mr. Roush said basically that once you get beyond the 5 mph and are approaching 10 mph, that is where the problems are. There is one traffic commissioner who hears 85% of the cases and he or she will know the areas in question. If the information is not there to support it, the judge will not uphold the citation. Mr. Brozosky asked about a particular segment of Stoneridge. Mr. Roush said it would need to be in the record as to why the speed limits are being reduced. There may be some things there that may not be noticeable to the reasonably prudent driver that would justify reducing the speed limit. Whatever the reasons might be, it can be added to the information in the traffic survey so that when the judge looks at it, the judge knows that it was not an arbitrary number, there was some factual support for the reduction. Captain Fraser said it didn't take many citations being dismissed before the officers would come back and inform their superiors of the problem. The police have stopped enforcement on these segments at this point the citations can't be upheld in court. Mr. Knowles said there are some posted signs that staff thinks do not represent what the speed limit should be and those are recommended to be changed. It appears the 40 mph signs that were posted on the most eastern segment of Stoneridge Drive are supported by an engineering and traffic survey, although we did not find the section of the Municipal Code that states that the speed limit should be 40 mph. Ms. Ayala asked about the possibility of Stoneridge connecting to another street, and if everything that has been studied has to do with it connecting. Wouldn't it be wise on this stretch to wait until we do the East Side Study and really decide what we are going to do in the area before we start raising the limits. Mr. Knowles replied it depended on what is wanted in terms of enforcement. The survey is based on existing conditions on the day of the survey, typical weather, and typical kind of day. It doesn't consider that someday a road might change. He did not believe there was any value in waiting. It doesn't change anything. We could wait for traffic patterns to establish themselves and then re-survey it and that could be years and years. Until that time we have an unenforceable speed limit on this section of the roadway. The limit as it is right now has nothing Pleasanton City Council 9 01/07/03 Minutes