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land and he questioned whether the neighbors are impacted. This whole issue is not about the <br />pole, it is about that land. He was concerned that no one has talked about Mr. Ciesielski's First <br />Amendment rights. This is not a chicken coop in the back, but about the flag. <br /> <br />Ms. Dennis referred to the Government Code and asked about aesthetic considerations. <br /> <br /> Mr. Devane said no restrictions solely to promote aesthetic considerations may be <br />imposed. <br /> <br />Ms. Ayala asked if the land belongs to Mr. Ciesielski. <br /> <br /> Mr. Devane said Mr. Ciesielski has paid for the property and is in control of the property, <br />however that is being appealed by the neighbors and that appeal has not yet been heard. <br />However, the flagpole is not on that property purchased from the city, so it is irrelevant to this <br />issue. <br /> <br /> Mr. Roush said the land has been transferred to Mr. Ciesielski. Part of the court order is <br />that in the event that the decision in Superior Court, which upheld the decision of the Council to <br />sell the land as surplus, is reversed, then the deal would be set aside. <br /> <br /> Jerry Wagner, 6344 Alisal Street, referred to a Channel 7 report and quoted some remarks <br />of Mr. Ciesielski. He also referred to a newspaper article which quoted Mr. Ciesielski as saying <br />he would build the flagpole no matter what the outcome of the heating. He said Juanita Bianchi <br />collected signatures from 40 people who do not want the flagpole or the illumination. He said he <br />collected signatures from the people who live at the Pleasanton Mobile Home Park and 25 <br />people said they do not want the flagpole or the illumination. He believed that if the flagpole is <br />allowed, many different flags will be flown, including the skull and crossbones (a symbol of <br />death) and others. Mr. Ciesielski could fly the US flag on the front of his house as other people <br />in Pleasanton do. In his opinion, this was a "spite pole" and has nothing to do with patriotism. <br />He said Mrs. Bianchi filed a police report regarding a threatening phone call received today and <br />was afraid to come to the meeting. <br /> <br /> Jack Chestnut, 4128 Stanley Boulevard, agreed Mr. Ciesielski has a right to a flagpole as <br />does everyone in the City. He would like to find a reasonable solution to the problem that would <br />work for Mr. Ciesielski and the neighbors. He reminded Council that in 1999 he was required by <br />Council, because of the concerns of a few neighbors, to meet with those concerned and to <br />redesign his house. That cost him over $100,000. He did that in good faith and worked out a <br />solution. He suggested the same thing be done in this instance. He believed that Mr. Ciesielski <br />and his neighbors should get together and discuss the concerns. Mr. Chestnut said the light from <br />the flagpole will not shine in his windows, but he will definitely see it. He is a light sleeper and <br />the motion sensor activated light in Mr. Ciesieiski's yard wakes him up now. He referred to a <br />comment by Mr. Ciesielski that his neighbors would object to whatever he wanted to do. Mr. <br />Chestnut acknowledged they do have a difficult relationship. He related a recent incident with a <br />fence and the solution he reached. Mr. Chestnut believed if people talked to each other they <br />could find a solution. He asked Council to make no decision, but to require the neighbors to get <br />together and find a solution. <br /> <br />Pleasanton City Council 21 11/19/02 <br />Minutes <br /> <br /> <br />
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