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Ms. Dennis asked what the Promenade is? <br /> <br /> Mr. Bocian said Promenade is 55 years, which is the same as Ridgeview <br />Commons. The Nolan Farms project that was just approved happens to be 30 years, <br />because there was a Fannie Mae restriction on this. It varies from project to project. <br /> <br /> Ms. Dennis asked if Archstone is "in perpetuity," and does it not include very low <br />income? <br /> <br />Mr. Bocian said that is correct. <br /> <br /> Ms. Micheiotti said in the future, if we are looking at financing a golf course, <br />doing improvements to the Bernal Property and the City taking on debt, is there any <br />conllideration as far as future needs. <br /> <br />Ms. Rossi said that this essentially does not count as the City's debt. <br /> <br /> Ms. McKeehan said there are a variety of agreements in effect. Some are in <br />perpetuity; some 55 years; and some for 30 years. City staffhas talked about bringing to <br />Council a summary of all of the projects. <br /> <br /> Mr. Pico asked if the development agreement was silent. He thought when <br />Council talked about this issue they were talking about affordability "in perpetuity." <br />Affordability with a sunset is not really affordability. <br /> <br />Ms. McKeehan said this was her understanding as well. <br /> <br /> Mr. Pico asked if this item was modified to provide affordability "in perpetuity," <br />is going to eliminate the bond financing potential or is it going to delay it? <br /> <br /> Mr. Melikian said there are two issues; legally he knows of certain lawyers who <br />work in this area who have never gotten comfortable with affordability "in perpetuity" <br />unless the City owns the land and can control the leaseholder. The reason is a ver3t <br />obson'e rule called the Rule Against Perpetuities, which doesn't allow for transfers of <br />estates for more than a certain period of time. We have always avoided putting things "in <br />perpetuity" for that reason, and would rather have them in stated terms, whether they be <br />55 years, 70 years, 90 years, or whatever other number is chosen. That is the legal issue. <br />The underwriting issue he really could not speak to very well. The loan has been <br />unch~'written with a 55-year affordability resffiction. Clearly this is going to be about a <br />34-year bond issue, so Fannie Mae is expecting to be out of the picture before this <br />expires. He did not think it will effect the underwriting, but he cannot say whether it is <br />going to cause a problem for the transaction. He mentioned at the end of 55 years, the <br />people that are in the project that are very low income are protected. There is a provision <br />in the California Government Code that applies to this project and as long as they qualify <br />as very low income under the standards that are then in effect at the time, they cannot be <br />evicted from their units and their rents cannot be bumped up to market rents. It is 55 <br /> <br />Plea~anton City Council 39 07/17/01 <br />Minutes <br /> <br /> <br />