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In response to Mr. Robert Pearson's question, Mr. Fales explained in detail the sewer and water funds and service charges. Mr. Fales also explained the detach- ment of the Val Vista to V.C.S.D. for sewage purposes. Mr. Fales explained the phase-out program again. There being no further questions at 10:00 P.M., relevent to the sewer problems, Mayor Getton stated that the problem of smog will be discussed immediately after a short recess. Mayor Gerton reconvened the meeting at 10:20 P.M. Mr. John Long presented a very detailed report on fscts about smog in the Livermore-Amador Valley. He reported on the unique problem this Valley has in that it is surrounded by hills. He stated that this Valley is in one of the potentially worst locations for smog in the United States. Mr. Long explained what causes fog and listed the source of the pollutants as being 90% from the automobile. He re- ported that 25% was from local cars and 25% were from cars passing through this Valley on two major freeways. He estimated that about 50% of our smog was pushed into the Valley from the East Bay by prevailing west winds. He stated that he felt that the only real solution to the smog problem was the development of either a different type of auto propulsion system or the internal combustion gasoline engine must have effective smog controls. Mr. Long cited Assembly Bill 357, ~ich provides that by 1975, all new automobiles will truly have effective smog comtrols. He further stated that new cars each year make up only about 8% of the car popula~ tion so it will be at least 1980 before the effects are noticed and with some pre~ dictions regarding the population of Pleasanton doubling by 1975, this increase in population will far outstrip the beneficial effects from smog controls between now and 1980. Mr. Long stated that if the rate of growth in this Valley is not halted or slowed down, by 1975 one day in every three will be an eye smarting day. Mr. Long emphasized the need to slow down the growth of this Valley until the automo- bile smog control technology becomes truly effective. Discussion ensued regarding the 4.7 density per gross acre, and Mrs. C~ristine Pearson asked if the question regarding the amount of density could be placed on the ballot for the electorate to decide. Mr. Hirst stated that advisory questions could not be .placed on the ballot. He stated that the City Council has the authority to increase it or to decrease it. He stated that the General Plan recommended 4.7 density per gross acre and the City is using that figure as a guideline. Mr. Campbell, in response to a question from a member of the audience, stated that the number of cars per family was not as important as the number of trips that are made each day by a single family. He reported that from a survey taken, a family from a single family residence will make 8-12 trips per day and a family residing in a multiple will make 3-6 trips per day. Mr. Long stated that the City Council should take strong action discouraging the development of a third freeway in this Valley and to use their leverage with the State Board in Sacramento. In answer to a question by Mrs. Kline, Mayor Gerton explained the charges given to the Citizens Committee on the General Plan Review. In answer to a second ~uestion from Mrs. Kline, Mr. Fales explained th~ dif- ference between the County General Plan and the Pleasanton General Plan. He stmted that the Alameda County Plan now includes the General Plans of Livermore ~nd Pleasanton. He stated that the cities have no jurisdiction over zoning out- side their city limits. He added that one of the important reasons that cities want to annex property is so that the cities can do the zoning. Mr. Fales pre- sented statistics on both single family and multiple construction in the entire Valley over the past years. Mr. ~omg suggested that a lobby program be initiated in Sacramento to allow cities to control their own building and growth programs. ~r. Long concluded by stating that the environment in the Valley is much more important than the pros- ~erity of developers an~ lando~mers, and that the City Council should do everything in its power to reduce the growth rate. Mr. Pearson, a member of the General Plan Review Committee, stated that bc feels Mr. Long is being mislead by statistics on smog. He further stated t~at ~owerimg density or stopping growth will have no effect on the smog situation unless the Bay-Area generated smog is controlled. He stated that he felt that e~c~ application for rezoning should be considered on its own merits. Mr. Pearson ~ta~ed that he thinks the figures used by Mr. Long on the number of ~d~erse smog days are only estimates that are used for political purposes. After some discussion on Mr. Pearson's report, Mayor Gerton stated that this meeting will be continued at a time which will be announced later.