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48 <br /> <br /> Mr. Swift indicated staff had already taken into consideration the <br /> change for the Kaufman and Broad project, plus the proposed <br /> warehouse use by Mr. Madden on the balance of his property. Those <br /> changed dramatically the amount of trips out of that piece of <br /> property. <br /> <br /> Mr. Butler indicated the traffic conditions established for <br /> North Pleasanton made a lot of sense at the time. It was important <br /> because no one knew what all impacts would be. Now, because the <br /> North Pleasanton Improvement District has made major improvements <br /> in the street network long before needed, everyone is finding these <br /> improved streets are great to use. That is where the fairness <br /> issue comes in. It is unfair to hold the same property owners <br /> fully accountable for everything. Part of the picture is that if <br /> we let the levels of service get up to a high level, such as D or <br /> E, then the people would stop using the roads and traffic would go <br /> away by itself. We are now at a point where we have a much better <br /> idea of traffic factors that individual developments generate and <br /> it is much easier to project the remaining portion of the park as <br /> opposed to trying to project the whole thing. Mr. Butler indicated <br /> he was sympathetic to approving Option 2 to look at where we are <br /> right now, include the extraneous traffic as part of the base, but <br /> not allow future traffic of that sort to impact the model. Mr. <br /> Butler was also in agreement with eliminating Valley/Santa Rita <br /> from the picture if it becomes necessary because it is too far from <br /> all of the development and is the intersection most impacted by the <br /> extraneous traffic. <br /> <br /> Mr. Tarver was not in favor of Option 2 because there are <br /> other alternatives that need to be looked at. Traffic is not a <br /> science and at the beginning it was predicted there would be 46% <br /> outcommute and now it is really 76%. We did make a commitment to <br /> the voters that traffic would not get like this. He would support <br /> Valley and Santa Rita being excluded, and within the Business Park <br /> itself there might be a need for certain exemptions, but he did not <br /> want to remove the condition from the entire Business Park. The <br /> Tri-Valley Transportation Council is working on the same issue, <br /> i.e. to change the land use if the roads don't work. Mr. Tarver <br /> indicated more attention should be paid to the freeways, because if <br /> they are congested, people take cross-town roads~ Pleasanton <br /> businesses and people should not be the only ones to suffer as a <br /> result of poor planning for the whole region. <br /> <br /> Ms. Mohr wanted to clarify that with the million square foot <br /> reduction in Hacienda, and a comparable reduction from Signature, <br /> conditions will still be met for the .91 LOS D. So what is <br /> happening is not changing conditions, but making Hacienda smaller <br /> so it can build out and still meet the conditions. <br /> <br /> Mr. van Gelder indicated what is being considered is similar <br /> to what was done for the Wells Fargo project. It had a project and <br /> the City set forth traffic conditions that must be met if it build. <br /> <br /> 5/19/92 16 <br /> <br /> <br />