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projects, such as New Cities, Del Prado and the Stanley Senior complex, while staying within the 750 maximum number. He will not support 800 units under any circumstances. Ms. Mohr felt the substantial differences on the subcommittee was that she took the position that we have heard talk for many years about the huge backlog and she wanted to get it out of the way. That is what she thought Mr. Tarver wanted to do. Mr. Pico felt strongly that even with that thought in mind, he did not want to get the numbers up so high that the public would have the perception that growth is out of control. The problem is how to clear out the long term projects (and you can't when allocations go out as far as 1999). What has happened this year is that a couple of projects have come along that were very good for the community and you have to work in those projects with the numbers that appear to block them. Ms. Dennis asked how many building permits were actually issued in 19957 Mr. Tarver said that was in Table 3. It seems to be approximately 232 units to date. Mr. Swift indicate that is as of two months ago. Ms. Mohr inquired about the number of large lot home permits that were taken out and believed the double counting was not logical. If the lot is approved, it is assumed a house will be there. If you take out the double counting, she felt Brian's solution was good, although she also liked Option 1. Ms. Michelotfi also had the same question about double counting. It seems the number of permits pulled in the last three to four years was well under the projections. Mr. Roush indicated the permits to date were around 350. What happens is that there will be 100 from Case Avenue this month and there are a number of other developers who will pull permits at the end of this month. Staff estimates that there will be around 500 building permits issued this year, not counting Stanley Seniors and St. 3ohns Place. Ms. Michelotti referred to Table 2 which appears to indicate that the figure, including St. Johns and Stanley Seniors and the 100 from Case Avenue, equals 538 units. That seems to be a more realistic figure regarding building permits. Mr. Swift indicated that there is a large number of units in custom lot subdivisions, such as Ruby Hill and other projects, which are eligible to have building permits taken out because the public improvements are completed and the lots can be sold. However, permits are not going to be taken out in fact, because the lots have not been sold and there has been no plan submitted to the City. For instance, staff estimated Ruby Hill would have 40 units in 1995 and it is estimated now the project will take out not more than 45 permits. That is a lot less than the 150 units that are on the schedule for allocations. In reality those permits are being taken out for units that showed up in 1994 or 1993 allocations. None of the units in this table from Ruby Hill will actually have permits taken out. Instead, what happens is the fmal improvements 12/04/95 - 11 -