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Ms. Michelotti clarified that applying design guidelines to the entire 250 developable acres must be addressed at some point. Mr. Nelson felt the point was the timing of the design guidelines. There are a lot of other, big picture issues, that need to be focused on. Design guidelines are a refinement to be done later. It is also necessary to determine what you mean by "design guidelines". He felt appropriate elements were streetscape, gateways, landscaping and those things that are unifying elements of a land plan, but do not need to be done now. The current proposal seems to go beyond that and includes a sta~ment that the design studies will "lead to the final design guidelines for development of all land use types included in the plan." He felt that was getting too specific and had concerns about that. Mr. Tarvet suggested separating the issues so San Francisco can be comfortable and identifying what issues Council would defer to the future. Mr. Nelson felt that was appropriate. Ms. Mohr asked for Mr. Nelson's opinion of planning neighborhood streets to limit speeds to 15 mph. Mr. Nelson felt that was appropriate in neighborhoods, but questioned its application to the 508 acres. If the intent is to have that speed on the main circulation element, it will be a problem. If the intent is within the specific residential areas, he would support that. The real question is how and where do you apply the Calthorpe concepts. He questioned whether some of them will really work. The Village Center intersection is very convoluted, has high traffic generation and circuitous traffic routes and he is not sure will be functional. The issue of Valley Avenue and its alignment are of concern regarding aesthetics. If it is next to the freeway, it will be totally different than if on a flat parcel. There are many issues outstanding on the traffic elements. Mr. Tarver felt the EIR can answer those issues. Mr. Nelson greed with that, but proposing an idea that is fundamentally flawed is a waste of time to include in an EIR analysis. Iack Dove, 3263 Vineyard Avenue #114, referred to the recommendations of the General Plan Circulation Subcommittee to extend Valley Avenue through to Sycamore to benefit the circulation for the entire city. He described what was necessary to raise Valley Avenue to cross the railroad tracks and indicated it will be a very high structure. If it is near the freeway, it will not be unsightly. If it is moved to another location, it will become an eyesore and detract from the view of the golf course. He then referred to plans to move the school site and to direct all traffic onto Junipero. He felt this would create an unacceptable traffic problem when you 04/16/96 -16-