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of the LAVWMA expansion he encouraged people to vote no and come back with an agreement where RO is not a part of the expansion. Carl Pretzel, 3633 Glacier Court, said his experience with Black and Veatch is that its only interest is in building plants. He said filtering the salt out of the water was not enough justification for this project. He felt the way to get rid of the salt was to RO the water as it comes out of the pure ground water. He said even the National Research Council has said to be very careful. He recapped a Milwaukee incident where 150-200 people died and 750,000 people got sick from cloudy water. He did not trust the source control on any type of RO project. He said once the RO water is injected it is permanent. He mentioned some cities have had problems with TCP contamination in groundwater and are spending millions of dollars trying to pump it back out. He said there are many chemicals that the experts know nothing about and it is questionable that the chemicals will be removed by reverse osmosis. The agencies do not merit the trust of the people. He would like the City Attorney to stop the injection process permanently and that the current residents not pay for the capital, the operation, the maintenance, the liability and the marketing for this project. Peter MacDonald, 400 Main Street, urged people not to connect growth inducement with the reverse osmosis project and research data on total dissolved solids (TDS). (He then showed a chart demonstrating salt in the valley water. ) He felt the main problem for water management is to lower the buildup of salt in the groundwater and improve the quality of the water. With regard to the RO project, he believed the issue is not quality of water but system failure. How do you get the right fail-safes and controls. He also pointed out that Council had agreed with the Principles of Agreement and one element skated Council would not oppose the RO project. He then showed a chaff on total organic compounds (TOC). Reverse osmosis treated water was the lowest for both TDS and TOC. There was a break at 10:00 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 10:10 p.m. Ron Bissinger, 1142 Mataro Court, said he has designed and operated RO equipment that was used for petroleum processing and various mineral processing operations. He has worked with Black and Veatch and stood in front of many groups to get permits for RO projects. He said twenty years ago it was perfectly safe to approve RO projects, but now the people are stuck with contaminated groundwater. He was operating on the best information available at that time and did everything he could to protect the people. He said this is the first time he has ever opposed such a project. He said there are smaller particles that an RO process cannot remove that could be harmful. It is what we don't know that can huff us. He said if Council has any doubts about this project then put it before the vote of the people. Roy Wells, 4698 Harren Way, supported the RO project. He believed that the RO water will be cleaner than the Delta water that he is currently drinking and that the foreign chemicals Pleasanton City Council 9 09/08/98 Minutes