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more volume, some shift in the freeway, and it is actually a balance on Pleasanton streets as well as Dublin’s streets. Commissioner O’Connor said his point was that, although the percentages were the same, Stoneridge is a net increase and there will be more cut-through traffic by opening it up at build- out, with more vehicles using city streets. Councilmember Sullivan said to this point, if you look at a combination of Table III, the PM volumes and Attachment 16 that shows the pattern changes, with Stoneridge, there is a net increase of cars of about 2,000. So, there are more cars using the combination of those two streets with it than without it. If you look at Attachment 16, you see the increase on Stoneridge and you see the decrease on Hacienda and Santa Rita, so what we are also seeing in addition to the cut-through question is that we have cars in Hacienda Business Park that used to get on the freeway or still would if the Stoneridge extension did not exist to go east. Instead of doing that, they are now going through the park and down Stoneridge Drive to get to El Charro. So, they are going further on city streets to get on the freeway. He felt this number was not defined as cut-through but was classified as business park trips that would have gotten on the freeway but now are using city streets, and he suggested this number be added to the cut-through as well. Commissioner O’Connor said he wanted to understand how sensitive the data would be if some of the assumptions do not come to fruition. He said Highway 84 might not get funding or other components might not get done in the next 20-30 years. Mr. Tassano felt a good way to look at this is if we have things like a full State Route 84 at 4 lanes, we have a significant benefit, so they have tried to assume the minimum of regional improvements anticipated at build-out in 2030. With additional improvements, they see added benefits, so westbound HOV combined with I-580/I-680 flyover to head west to south would free up a lot of traffic. If we do not have any improvements, there is no way to go but down. Councilmember Sullivan felt it was a balancing act and just like an economic or fiscal model; it is subject to the best conditions or assumptions we have available to us at the time we conduct it. So, if any of the key assumptions change economically or from a residential/commercial build- out perspective regionally, it impacts the model and we would have to deal with that incrementally over time. Commissioner O’Connor agreed, but if in the next 20 years some of the improvements do not happen like El Charro coming all the way to Stanley, it assumes there is going to be some development, this is not as major as if we do not have something happen on I-580 or Highway 84. Mr. Tassano said they see it more as a layered perspective and first and foremost, Pleasanton’s concern is that we do everything that we can from a regional perspective to fix the roadways and that is everything that has been contemplated in the Triangle Study recently completed including Highway 84. Then, if we get there, things are better than they are today. If we do not, we will need to adjust. Then, the second layer is the local improvements. What happens to El Charro, to Stoneridge, what potentially happens to Busch, etc. So, it is a big question that results in a big answer and it depends on what the assumptions are when we are making those key decisions in the future. Councilmember Thorne questioned what happens on Highway 84 between Pigeon Pass and I- 680, and Mr. Tassano said it is 2 lanes. Mayor Hosterman said Pigeon Pass is already funded and will go through. Workshop Minutes 7 April 24, 2007