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MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION page 5 Commissioner Wilson asked whether the drainage problem was a County or City concern. Mrs. Graves stated that one side is City and the other County. Mr. Baldacci indicated they have been looking into this and would really like to see the City take the initiative and get this matter resolved. Mr. Warnick indicated that there is a condition in the development conditions where the problem does have to be resolved and the City is working with the developer on this. He indicated this is a historical problem, there is not adequate storm drainage, it will probably take a larger piping system or require a drainage ditch. Mrs. Graves indicated they do want dust control, as conditioned, as well as the masonry wall. She felt that the proposal basically is a good use for the site. Mr. Pang of Pang and Associates reviewed his traffic study. They were hired as an unbiased traffic consultant by the City of Pleasanton. He explained the boundary of the study. Chairman Jamieson asked about the terms "near future and far future." Messrs. Harris and Warnick explained the terms and the list of projects included. Mr. Harris stated that it could be years before some of the projects could be built because it depends on how many development permits are allocated by the City Council. David Safreno, 307 Mavis Street, questioned the results of the traffic report. He had real concerns with words like probably, maybe, if this is done, etc. If low income housing is built and people come in with young families and there is an influx of population things could be different. He wanted to know how one would go about controlling use of driveways and didn't believe it could be done. He stated the report does not indicate how this will occur. He stated that traffic is already backed up during certain periods of the day in his neighborhood. He didn't feel the Pang report told all of the facts. James Griffin, 3036 Chardonnay, represented the Vintage Hills Homeowners Association. He said if the immediate neighbors are happy with the density then they don't have a problem with it. But they do have traffic concerns. He stated that no other traffic study has shown as low a traffic count as the Pang report. He stated that at S:OOpm, it takes two lights to get through the intersection of First Street at Vineyard Avenue. He also asked about the rumor that there would not be any bike lane on Vineyard Avenue. Mr. Warnick stated that bids were received today and came in under estimate. The project will proceed. Frank Belecky, 892 Madeira Drive, believed there to be a serious error in the traffic count. May 1979 report showed a volume of 11,800 cars. Quail Creek traffic report counted 12,302 and the present study only has 10,570. He believes that the traffic has not decreased but increased. Commissioner Doherty asked about the counting. Mr. Warnick stated that the counters were put in place by the City. The peak hour manual reading was done by Pang and Associates. Commissioner Doherty asked if the peak hour only covered one hour. Mr. Pang then stated that if you use the counts on Kottinger and Vineyard you come to the same totals, which means some of the people use one street some of the time and the other street the remainder of the time. -5- ._ .. _....,, ._~_.._, __. ____._ _ _ .__. .. ___ _. _r