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In response to an inquiry by Chairperson hox regarding a threshold of 25 children, Mr. O'Callaghan replied that if a zoning ordinance allows a specific business in a certain location, that in advance of the business opening, he did not believe the parking should be as much of a consideration because the commercial business site itself would already be vested for parking requirements. IIe noted that in-lieu fees may be the best solution and that he was not in favor of overregulating such issues. Commissioner Ulson did not believe the Brown net prevented an applicant from talking to him offline, one on one, and getting his opinion. IIe noted that it did prevent the Commission from discussing his application as a group and out of the public eye; they routinely met with applicants within the limits of the Brown Act. Kurt hummer, 4456 Clovewood Lane, noted that he was a member oCthe Parla and Recreation Conunission and the Trails Ad Iloc Committee but was speaking as a private resident. IIe supported the streamlining of the process and noted that at the previous City Council meeting, he had requested that an item about the math tutoring center be removed from Consent in order to be discussed. IIe asked City Council if it thought it was appropriate if such Planning Commission-specific conditions requiring that children be escorted into and out of the facility were appropriate. He noted that if his children needed such a private instruction service and that if he had looked at various facilities around town and done his own due diligence, that should be his decision. [Ie added that if he wished to sit in the facility for the entire time, that was also his decision. IIe believed that if he wished to bring his child in when they felt comfortable there and then went to get coffee, that should also be his decision. He believed that if he wanted his child to ride his bike to and from the lacility, that should be his decision. [Ie was particularly interested in Commissioner Blank's encouragement of people to wall: and ride bikes in town and did not believe it made sense to be required to drive children when they could ride their bikes. He inquired whether it was necessary to sign in and out every 10-year-old who wanted to play soccer, or to escort every lourih grader in and out of class. He did not know where this practice would stop and believed it was particularly inappropriate for a Planning Commission to make this requirement of local businesses. He supported streamlining and noted that this issue of escorting was a recent decision by the Planning Commission. THF. PUQLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED. Commissioner Blank expressed concern that every other noise measurement seen by the Commission ha been expressed in dBA, and he did not know what the measurements presented means. Ms. Decker suggested that staff revise that language and state that the noise levels need to comply with the current zoning code noise levels. The Commission concurred with that suggestion. Commissioner Pearce inquired whether staff felt the recd to call out the noise issue and agreed with Mr. O'Callaghan's suggestion that businesses simply need to comply with all Federal, State, and local regulations. Ms. Dcckcr agreed with Commissioner Pearce's suggestion and believed that it was sensible. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES March 14, 2007 Page 5 of 7