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backyard to 4-H hogs and sheep and encouraged the Commission to approve the proposal- With respect to Mr_ Larsen's proposed condition regarding not replacing any chickens that are permanently transferred elsewhere, she indicated that if the applicants' children are 4-H members, some of those chickens may not come home, and the children may want to replace them- She pointed out that keeping the chickens inside the coop between 7:00 p.m_ and 9=00 a.m. is unreasonable. She stated that not allowing the chickens to roam around freely is not part of the City's ordinance and that there is nothing wrong with letting them do so as long as they do not go into the neighbor's yards or the Sports Park_ Kevin G'lose, 871 Sycamore Road, stated that he has never had a problem with chickens and concurred with staFf s recommendation to approve the conditional use perrnit_ Mr. Becker stated that he never meant to deceive anyone by having the chickens without a permit. He added that he went to the 4-H and was told that he could raise them- He indicated that he had no problem paying the necessary fees to get a permit and feels that his peace and quiet has not been interrupted since Ms, Shoars jumped the fence to look at his chickens- THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED- Commissioner Blank inquired if chickens lay eggs inside the coop or outside, how tall. the chickens are, and what their average life span was. Ms_ Decker replied that she did not know where the chickens laid their eggs and believed that the height and average life span of the chickens depended on their breed. Offcer Ficken stated that chickens can lay their eggs anywhere and that their lifespan depends on a lot of variables~ Commissioner Pearce asked Officer F icken to describe the process for any kind of recourse for noise violation should the use permit be approved~ Officer Ficken replied that he has never had to deal with this type of violation in his 25 years of service- He indicated that a new procedure would need to be put in place and that it would probably he the same process as that used for barking dogs; however, basically someone would call Animal Control at the Police Department to report a complaini_ Acting Chairperson Arkin inquired. if the Municipal Code specified a limit on the number of chickens that may be allowed in a residential area and if goats were also allowed in a residential area Officer Fieken replied that there was no limit on the number of chickens and that goats were not allowed in a residential neighborhood. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES July 27, 2005 Page 6 of 31