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Commissioner Fox noted that most gas stations were at the comer of an intersection and noted that stations not at the corner entail a number of turns to return to the original direction of travel. She did not agree that there would be no incremental impact on traffic, especially because the intersection must be traveled twice. Mr. Iserson noted that this station was located on a corner, which helped with access. He described a method of travel that would not entail going through the intersection twice. A discussion of various cut-through routes ensued. Commissioner Sullivan noted that the section on "Mandatory Findings of Significance," on page 7 of the Negative Declaration described Mr. Iserson's point that the project itself had a very small impact but that it added traffic to a situation that was already very bad. He believed that there should be a "Yes" indication for that paragraph. Mr. Iserson advised that could be tempered if the Commission desired by developing one of the thresholds to determine significance. Commissioner Maas inquired whether the Commission had approved any past projects with a similar LOS. Mr. Iserson replied that he did not recall any new projects; the McDonald's application was a design review of analready-approved project. Commissioner Fox noted that the monument sign appeazed to be twice the height of a person and inquired whether the scale of the illustration was correct. Mr. Iserson noted that the picture was out of proportion and added that the sign was designed to be nine feet high. Commissioner Fox inquired whether there was a Federal regulation restricting the use of the U.S. flag as a corporate logo. Mr. Iserson noted that the applicant may be able to clarify that question. Commissioner Maas inquired about the effect of the number of pumps and aisles on traffic circulation. Mr. Iserson confirmed that the more aisles and pumps were located in a gas station, the more quickly the traffic turns over and the less backup would exist. Chairperson Roberts noted that page 17 contained an error which referred to "a quick-service restaurant with drive-through." Mr. Iserson confirmed the error. Chairperson Roberts inquired whether the new turn lane and the widening of Stanley Boulevard were taken into consideration in the traffic model. Jeff Knowles confirmed that they were taken into consideration. Chairperson Roberts inquired whether Express Liquors was open 24 hours. Mr. Iserson replied that he did not know. In response to an inquiry by Chairperson Roberts whether diverted trips were counted as new trips, Mr. Iserson replied that they were new trips and that only the pass-by trips were not counted. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES September 8, 2004 Page 6 of 14