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from neighboring cities. She explained thatt PPD is advising that this is what they need to keep the community safe and she trusts the PPD. Councilmember Narum expressed a similar discomfort. She advised it is essential for the PPD to plan for the worst case, also citing a large number of mass shootings nationally and noted Pleasanton is not immune from the risk. She advised officers need to be trained and equipped to handle a situation like those and hope they never have to use the equipment. She noted Pleasanton prides itself on safety and the City Council must continue to support community and officer safety. Councilmember Narum advised the City has not participated in the 1033 program and heard tonight there is no intention of participating. She noted she would have a problem with the PPD participating. Councilmember Testa clarified she agreed it has value and when used in appropriate conditions. Councilmember Arkin moved to approve the staff's recommendation with the addition of citing penal codes and direction to staff to bring usage statistics to the second reading and for the equipment not to be used for promotional appearances involving children. Councilmember Testa seconded the motion. In response to Mayor Brown, Councilmember Arkin clarified she would like to know how often the equipment is used. She advised it is transparent and adds to the City Council's role prescribed by AB 481. She confirmed she wants the information as data. Mayor Brown advised it is good to not use the equipment but have it available but it could be concerning if it is used too often. In response to Councilmember Narum, Chief Swing cited the PPD Teen Academy, its open houses, and Coffee With A Cop where a speaker may be in a Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) uniform in regards to the promotional component of the motion. He advised any police car may have some of the items therfore prohibiting it from being part of a school safety presentation. Councilmember Arkin suggested it could exclude items within a standard police vehicle. Councilmember Narum expressed concerns about events like National Night Out where children take interest in police work. In response to Councilmember Narum, Councilmember Arkin amended her motion to have staff return with options for promotional uses around children. City Manager Beaudin noted the earlier conversation was concerning the ARV but it leveled up to all military equipment. He explained the entire list is more than the ARV (Ballistic Armored Tactical Transport (BATT)). He requested direction on how expansive the direction in the motion would be. Mayor Brown and Councilmember Narum noted that unmanned vehicles and robots could be fun for kids. Councilmember Narum advised she would like the PPD to think about the list and the context of the reasoning behind the direction. Councilmember Testa noted there should be some discretion around exposing children to rifles and the BATT. Councilmember Arkin noted there could be a rifle in a police car which would make the entire car off limits to a kid. She clarified staff can work on it and come back with options. City Council Minutes Page 10 of 11 June 7. 2022