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In response to Councilmember Narum, Chief Swing stated criteria for the success of the pilot program <br />would be a reduction in the number of 5150 holds in general and reducing the number of 5585 holds <br />specifically in schools. The focus of the juvenile intervention clinician will be to drive the latter number <br />down. Another goal would be reducing the number of PPD patrol responses to mental health calls. <br />In response to Councilmember Narum, Chief Swing confirmed they are following San Diego's PERT <br />model. He noted Pleasanton has far less need for homeless response than San Diego which will allow <br />the team to do other types of work and interventions. <br />In response to Councilmember Narum, Chief Swing clarified Axis Community Health's contributions will <br />be through case management follow-up and utilization of its existing Mental Health Urgent Care Clinic. <br />He agreed a criterion for success would be getting people into these programs through referrals from <br />the alternative response team. <br />In response to Mayor Brown, Chief Swing agreed the number of calls may initially increase because <br />some people did not previously call the PPD for mental health support. He added it is the chronic return <br />calls where they expect a decrease. <br />Mayor Brown opened the public hearing. <br />Jocelyn Combs thanked City Manager Fialho for his steady hand in guiding the City. She thanked all <br />those who worked on the proposal which she stated is reasonable and well -thought-out. She reported <br />she has first-hand experience with this issue due to a suicidal family member calling PPD. She stated <br />the many PPD and LPFD vehicles arriving with their sirens on were almost as traumatic as the suicide <br />attempt and lauded the plain -clothes component of the proposal. She expressed concerns about what <br />would happen if a clinician is unavailable. She thanked the attention being given to family members. <br />She requested a 12 -month update instead of 24 months. She thanked the Council for addressing the <br />LPFD element of the program. <br />In response to Ms. Combs's inquiries, Chief Swing confirmed the program's updates can be included in <br />the PPD's bi-annual updates to the Council. He stated if the team is not in-service outside of its hours <br />the response would be the same as it is today. <br />In response to Councilmember Balch, Chief Swing confirmed through regular briefings and shared <br />experiences, the PPD officers not involved in the crisis response team would learn more about properly <br />handling these situations. <br />In response to Councilmember Testa, Chief Swing reported the role of the police officer in the mental <br />health response is having the ability to legally write a 5150 hold if needed. He added paramedics and <br />the LPFD do not have this authority and it is why there is a licensed clinician embedded with firefighters <br />and paramedics in the CATT and CAHOOTS models. <br />John Bauer stated this pilot program is a step in the right direction and the key will be to refine the <br />program. He expressed hopes the PPD will review each encounter for evaluation. He asked how the <br />program will address those who are not deemed to be a threat to themselves or others. He also called <br />for the program to include a mental health first aid going to public -facing businesses to train employees <br />on how to handle patrons in mental crisis. He reported from experience ValleyCare refers mental health <br />patients out to other hospitals for not having anyone on staff with psychiatric training and the closest <br />hospital with mental health services is John Muir Medical Center in Concord. He expressed hopes for <br />the program's success. <br />In response to Mr. Bauer, Chief Swing confirmed the criteria for evaluating whether someone needs to <br />be placed on a mental health hold is if they are a danger to themselves or others or gravely disabled. <br />City Council Minutes Page 7 of 19 November 16, 2021 <br />