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businesses that were open to the public for five to six hours a day or at least 30 hours per <br /> week. He recommended personal services require a special permit. <br /> Chair Brown mentioned the DSP Task Force and intent behind active ground floor use being <br /> based on continuity and flow along the street for browsing or foot traffic. He also <br /> acknowledged that some personal service uses have a retail component. <br /> Commissioner Allen discussed the proposed percentage and desire to simplify the regulations. <br /> She suggested that the provision for active and non-active uses in a single tenant space be <br /> eliminated and instead require 100 percent active use ground floor retail for tenant spaces <br /> subject to the AGFUO, since any specific percentage would be difficult to administer and <br /> enforce. She stated she would accept 60 percent as the bare minimum but would prefer 100 <br /> percent. She stated she was amenable to the vacancy definition but understood Chair Brown's <br /> concern and stated she would be open to 'the minimum evidence to lease the space would be <br /> documented to include lease sign in building, a public posting about the space and in addition <br /> to see the lease or any other marketing communications.' <br /> Commissioner Morgan conceptually accepted Commissioner Allen's suggestion to eliminate <br /> the 25 percent requirement and thought there might be benefit to expanding the regulation to <br /> allow other types of businesses that attract walk in customers, especially if on-line sales <br /> continue to grow. <br /> Chair Brown stated the reason the matter came back to the Commission was because the <br /> intent of the DSP update was to encourage foot traffic along Main Street and the concern of a <br /> real estate office, bank or personal service with some floor space dedicated to incorporating <br /> retail. He stated he could understand the Commissioners' desire to not stifle the creativity of <br /> the business community nor divide the business community over the percentage. He <br /> mentioned Commissioner Gaidos' point related to certain businesses and their operating hours <br /> preventing browsing. He suggested tightening of the language regarding vacancy such that it <br /> is tied to the completion of the lease (i.e., it is acceptable to consider the space vacant if the <br /> rent is no longer being paid and the lease is over). <br /> Commissioner Allen commented on business hours, mentioning Iron Horse Real Estate, <br /> stating the hours of operation were not good enough, however, she had a hard time <br /> determining business hours because of the inconsistencies that could arise for the various <br /> businesses that would exist. She stated the goal was active use. <br /> Commissioner Gaidos stated the purpose of proposed hours of operation was to ensure the <br /> ability for purchase of retail items. He agreed that 100 percent retail would alleviate <br /> inconsistencies and be a simpler approach. <br /> Commissioner Pace inquired about Commissioner Gaidos and Commissioner Allen's <br /> comments about 100 percent retail and inquired if personal services were considered retail. <br /> Commissioner Allen stated active use excluded personal services. Commissioner Gaidos <br /> concurred, stating the proposal for multiple uses in a tenant space came about because of Iron <br /> Horse Real Estate. <br /> Planning Commission Minutes Page 5 of 9 July 28, 2021 <br /> whether there was discussion on the pros and cons of <br /> broadening the overlay and excluding personal services from active use. Ms. Clark stated it <br /> was not discussed at the most recent City Council or Planning Commission meetings but was <br /> discussed when the item was considered by the Chamber of Commerce and PDA. She stated <br /> other cities had allowed and some had excluded personal services. She summarized the <br /> discussion regarding massage businesses that arose during the Downtown Specific Plan <br /> (DSP) update, and concerns then about an overabundance of personal services. She <br /> Planning Commission Minutes Page 3 of 9 July 28, 2021 <br />