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Commissioner Nagler: Right, and so I don't know... tonight is not the night, but I think that even though we're all supposed to use it, I think this conversation's been very illuminating and that what we all ought to take as assignments after the meeting is to go back to this table and review what is permitted and conditional, and as Mr. Hirst has done really makes specific recommendations about whether they're categorized properly because that's.... Chair Ritter: ... I think that's what Gerry was saying. Send them a note and let them know. I see bed and breakfasts. Does that include VRBO if people wanted to do that or Airbnb? Weinstein: So VRBO's and Airbnb's and the like are sort of in a grey area in our code right now and are not explicitly listed as allowed so they are theoretically prohibited, but we acknowledge that Airbnb's and the like can be good things for our local economy so we're trying to tread pretty lightly on those right now until we have more resolution in terms of what our actual City policy should be. So we're dealing with them on a code enforcement basis as people voice complaints about them. Commissioner Balch: So I apologize — you're updating the zoning and you're saying we're excluding looking at the zoning for this. What would be the normal process to kind of bring them in as a whole? Beaudin: So cities are approaching this in all different ways, right? So right now it's conscience. We've considered it and we're keeping our hands off of it, and you know, the funny but real example is Ruby Hill used as a bridal shower or event center and that was shut down. It was problematic in terms of how that home was being used. So if there are complaints from residents about things happening like a house being rented out for VRBO, we're getting involved. You can go on those websites and you can see the options available in Pleasanton and we've taken a hands -off approach so far and it's been conscious. So if it becomes an issue in Pleasanton, I would expect it to come through the City Council work plan and it may even come out of this process if somebody wants to elevate it to that level. It does require a lot of study. There's a lot of legal time that goes into it and there are cities that are currently collecting hotel tax and trying to work that out. It's the larger cities who are doing that and there are a lot of cities who have taken a completely hands -off approach which is what we continue to do. Weinstein: And just to be clear, we're dealing here primarily with commercial office and industrial districts and the VRBO's and similar shared self - rental type of places are in residential districts. Beaudin: And I don't know if we said this at the start but we did break this into a number of phases. We've got a minimum of three pieces of zoning work to do and this is our first. So we'll come back with other modules and pieces of the code as we go. We really wanted to hit what we thought were some of the efficiency and really updated pieces of the code first and there's some state law issues we wanted to clean up as well, so that's what we're doing in the first round. Commissioner Brown: And Mr. Hirst pointed out cell sites. Is that in here? PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 31, 2016 Page 53 of 58