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Commissioner Balch: So someone who knows better than me should look at grading necessary so you can access and park on both elevations. I would just say that. Beaudin: Okay and I know Mike's been looking at that, including a connection closer to Bernal where the park is. There's some additional land there as it flattens out as well and kind of making those grade changes work and possibly getting parking closer. You know, when we've talked about this in the past, Mike's noted the engineering challenges and I have some aesthetic concerns as well, you know, the place where everyone enters our downtown or 27 percent of people are coming from Bernal and to have a parking lot on the entrance, I think the park really has to be the feature and maybe the parking can live behind it, but Mike hasn't figured out the engineering part of it yet and either has Steve Kirkpatrick, so I think if we can make it work, we will. Chair Ritter: Great. Commissioner Brown: I just want to say a comment, I know you changed your parking sign and you've got a new ornament for your office, on this page it was kind of interesting the emphasis on the free parking. It was nice, especially since the Council's direction but maybe that's something you consider only if you go to a mix of private and public. Beaudin: Yeah, there has to be an information and marketing campaign around some of this as well, and having the big blue "P" is pretty universal and we will not have, at least for the foreseeable future, any meters or numbered parking spaces or any of that stuff that would convince people they had to look around to figure out how to pay for their parking. So hopefully, that's enough. There's part of me that is cautious about the electronic signs that tell people how many spaces are available, I think parking structures in big areas that works well, but just sign clutter and pollution for me in our Downtown is a concern so we'll find the balance there and make sure we're not going too far. Commissioner Brown: And I didn't see anything here. Was there anything here on EV parking? Beaudin: We just added it to a list of things we want to explore on the Council work plan for the next year. We did not include EV parking because it's not a supply or management issue. It's a service and theoretically it takes away from what a majority of people are doing, although it's the right thing to do. So just like you all have the in -lieu issue, I have the EV issue. There are a couple of EV spaces at City Hall. We don't really have others that I know of in downtown. Commissioner Brown: There's one at the Museum on Main I know because I used it once, and the reason I brought it up is I read an interesting article that talked about the disappearing of gas stations in San Francisco because of the high land cost. You can't make money in San Francisco anymore and pretty soon there won't be any gas stations in San Francisco. I know we're not there yet, but it was just a thought. Beaudin: I think it's a direction we need to move as a community so in talking with Mike Tassano literally last week we were talking about EV charging and the possibility to do PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 24, 2016 Page 37 of 39