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Commissioner Balch: Are you preserving that it's a buffer zone still? I ask because it seems to be exclusive to me. Commissioner Nagler: Well, that's why I'm confused when you say it's a buffer zone. Is it still a buffer zone if we allow up to 10 people in the backyard? Commissioner Balch: I wasn't in that majority so I'm not going to argue your case. Commissioner Allen: And that's where I was. I was that it was still a buffer zone with 10 people that are Masons in the backyard if I was making up once per month that I'd say they should have a right to have 10 people in the backyard for lunch and not at 9PM. Commissioner Nagler: May I respond? To use your analogy which I think is an excellent one because the Millers and others are arguing that we're in a neighborhood and therefore it ought to be considered as if it was another neighborhood property, we wouldn't think to say, resident `x', you can only use your backyard once a month. So if for example we say there could be no more than 5 people in the backyard at any one time, then it sort of doesn't matter how often they are back there. Commissioner Allen: I get your point. Commissioner Balch: So to Commissioner O'Connor's point, if you're a strict prohibition of a backyard, you've solved a lot of problems. Commissioner Allen: You have. Commissioner O'Connor: You've solved almost every problem because I don't even think you have to have a conversation over Mason function and something commercial going on if no one's using the backyard. They did commercial before and there was no problem. Commissioner Balch: Could I suggest a possible out? Could we do that but allow an exception at the Director of Community Development? So for example, if the Masons wanted to have a Mason event that staff felt was appropriate, they could petition for it and it doesn't have to be a CUP amendment. Commissioner Allen: I'm fine with that because I do see an enforcement issue of getting into these little, you know, allowing a little bit. Commissioner O'Connor: If you want solid doors I don't know what the attraction's going to be, but I'd hate to put someone like Gerry on the spot here tonight because the people who hold his position change. We've had several since I've been here and I might put all of my confidence in Gerry, but what about his replacement someday — sorry, but I mean I've known another Jerry, this Gerry, Brian and... Commissioner Balch: But my argument would be similar to a special event permit for example. I'm assuming the City has a process for evaluating special permits. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, June 22, 2016 Page 36 of 56