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we're not going to count voices, I have a real problem. What if it's 10 and they're loud? No use of the buffer zone. Commissioner Balch: So if I may, I mentioned earlier in my comments that I'm familiar with buffer zones specifically in the City of Pleasanton unfortunately and it seems from the buffer zone that I'm familiar with that basically the use can be things like a parking lot frankly. Buffer zones can be used for true, let's call them "passive activities ", and I don't know if staff wants to weigh in, but that's why I have difficulty with a strict prohibition. Commissioner O'Connor: This one actually said that it could be used for a future parking lot. Commissioner Balch: I thought I saw that somewhere. Commissioner O'Connor: But not for human use. They're not going to have a gathering in their courtyard. Commissioner Balch: Well, I think that's maybe where I'm hesitant to where we're going because I'm trying to say that I could foresee a use that could be potentially a parking lot, could be a passive use. I'll call it a passive use. So I could support a passive use and not a, you know.... Commissioner Nagler: And I could support the use as a gathering place of human beings under some conditions. Commissioner Balch: Have we heard from Herb? Chair Ritter: I said I agree with Commissioner Allen and Commissioner Nagler. Commissioner Nagler: Okay, so now the question is how do you enforce it? Commissioner O'Connor: We haven't been enforcing the current CUP. Chair Ritter. It seems like the door caused a big issue to start the backyard and maybe we say that the door is an exit only door. Commissioner Balch: So the door has a couple of options. The first was changing the glass to sound proof glass. The second option raised by someone was changing it to a solid door and separate from those issues, the third was the exit -only access. I'm fine with that exit -only access. Commissioner O'Connor: And I think the glass was one of those attractive nuisances. If it's not attractive to walk out there and you're kind of isolated, it's not as desirable to go, but we created that by putting in a glass door. So I agree it should be emergency only /exit only. Chair Ritter: That eliminates people going in and out of that door which creates the zone to an open court a little bit. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, June 22, 2016 Page 34 of 56