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The third option, and I actually took a picture, would be just columns in front of the den <br />and the existing porch, and this is what you have around the corner and that's a tract <br />house. And again, I lose all of these custom features I presented on the current fagade <br />and they do not want what's around the corner. They want their own design. So that's <br />where we're meeting the issue of, well, it can be worked out later with staff. Well, there's <br />all of these are options, but it actually drastically changes the fagade. <br />We did propose as far as a size that we would extend the den and the column forward <br />so that we can retain the gabled element exactly as it is presented in here, but it is <br />brought forward so you have a larger porch. And I thought we had reached an <br />agreement on that, but we were told that is not what they were looking for. <br />Chair Ritter: Your time is up but we might have questions for you. <br />Commissioner O'Connor: Before you start with questions, can you put those last two <br />drawings up? <br />Commissioner Balch: So the last one that you showed, I think it's where the gable is <br />coming out? Not the tract home; the one you were saying you proposed to staff and <br />they said that wasn't what they were looking for? Having that side brought out and <br />making that into a covered porch of some element is not what staff's asking? <br />Townsend: It would be the same element, including this room brought forward. <br />Commissioner Balch: But if the room stayed where it is and you just brought the roof <br />element out? <br />Townsend: Then I would drop a column and it would look more like this <br />Commissioner Balch: Not as much as you lead on <br />Townsend: Because you're going to have column, column, this gets set back and all of <br />a sudden you have a prominent.... you no longer have this working as a unit. You have <br />this heavy gable sitting over this space. <br />Chair Ritter: Put it on the overhead and it will show up here. We have a video here. Can <br />you please point to where you're talking about? <br />Townsend: We were proposing that this entire element be brought forward including this <br />space. <br />Commissioner O'Connor: I think the suggestion is that you maintain the roofline as it is <br />but extend it out more towards the street and you keep the wall of the den where it is <br />but under the extended roofline towards the street you put a porch. <br />Townsend: I follow what you're saying but that would require another column here or a <br />third column. This element is projected; this element stays where it is, so now you have <br />this heavy gable end that's basically over the space. That again, is going contrary to this <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, April 13, 2016 Page 7 of 33 <br />