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Commissioners Nagler: I'm closer to Commissioner Allen's point of view and the only thing <br />I would ask is that as the plans are finalized is that the distribution of the on- street parking is <br />evenly distributed throughout the neighborhood and that the number of guest parking spots <br />I would suspect is slightly but not substantially inadequate if you assume that a lot of <br />residents will park on the street and use the guest parking. So I don't know what the magic <br />number is, but the one thing I would be concerned about is to be sure that it's properly <br />distributed throughout the neighborhood. <br />Chair Ritter: Okay, number 5; does the Planninq Commission support the proposed building <br />setbacks, building position, home design and massing? <br />Commissioner Brown: I will start. I had a question. How does the density and space in <br />between homes compare to say, the Bernal Safeway? <br />Hagen: Currently, the Safeway project at Township Square is the only project in the City <br />right now that's similar in scale in density that we have. Currently what they have at that site <br />is they do have five -foot setbacks between each home. <br />Weinstein: While Jennifer's scrolling to the right slide, there's also an exhibit to your staff <br />report; Exhibit C which shows the development standards for that project. <br />Hagen: So these are the development standards that we used for the Township Square. <br />For the Township Square they do have two -car garages. They do have 18 -foot driveways <br />for the two -story units. But for the three -story units, they have similar driveways. They <br />basically don't have any driveways. One of the differences though in this is that they do <br />have more space in between buildings. They have a total of 10 feet between the buildings <br />where the current proposed project has approximately six feet between buildings. <br />Commissioner O'Connor: So was these zero lot line? <br />Hagen: We're still in discussions right now with the way they've shown this project, is that <br />one of them will be zero lot line and there will be six feet on the other side. That's the way <br />they currently have shown it. Within our discussions we really haven't talked to them about <br />how that works and what the easements are going to need to be and where the windows <br />line up and whether there is going to be just passive open space or whether they're actually <br />going to be fenced privately. So it is still something we are determining that we need to work <br />out with the developer, but right now it is shown as zero lot line for the Irby Ranch <br />development. <br />Commissioner O'Connor: And 6 '/2 feet is in the table? <br />Hagen: Correct. <br />Commissioner Brown: So just to finish my point I guess, if there's one area to get kind of <br />unsolicited feedback on it's the distance between homes there so that's why I was asking. I <br />know this proposal is 5 feet on each or 10, and I also think you can take a tape measure <br />and trespass to measure that, so it's just interesting to compare. From a public perspective <br />it would look similar to that development. And so to the points made earlier, if you make the <br />houses slightly smaller or maybe space them further apart, you get some more green <br />space. You're not necessarily reducing the number of units, so those are the things to <br />consider. That's my comment. Thank you. <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, April 27, 2016 Page 32 of 43 <br />