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Deutscher: We're not trying to create a Mona Lisa there, but certainly something that's pleasing to look at and gets the job done. That's fine. Commissioner O'Connor: And there's a benefit to the new owners of these units as well because they only have so many feet. They can't get away from the sound or anything else. Deutscher: And if you look at the aerial, you'll see the neighboring yards. Many of the neighboring yards have very, very mature, if not heritage, trees along there anyways, but we're absolutely willing to do some sort of sound wall if you will that is satisfactory to the City. Commissioner O'Connor: Yes, I think that would be better than trees or something. This isn't a very big backyard. If you put trees in there then your backyard is gone. Chair Ritter: Staff, is that enough for C? Weinstein: Yes, that's good, so we can explore two options. Commissioner Allen: I agree with your comments about the rear setback, and on the front setback, what did we do for the Peter's project with Mike Carey? What is the front setback? Weinstein: I think the Peters project was something like 25 feet, but the important thing to consider with that project is that there were garages in the front. We wanted that additional setback in the front to get some guest parking, so this is a different architecture and different sort of street interface. Commissioner Allen: How about the project by the Bank of America? Amos: Are you referring to the one on Peters and West Angela? The one the City developed? Commissioner Allen: Kimberly Commons. Amos: Kimberly Commons' setback is essentially about the same; 10 to maybe 15 feet, but I think it is more closer toward what the applicant is proposing on the front ones along the Peter Avenue side. If you're referring to the one developed more recently on Peters and West Angela, that one has a significantly more reduced setback. That went up to the stairs and I think it was 8 feet to reach those stair entry areas. Commissioner Allen: Right, that's not a good example and that's why I asked. Lee: I don't know if you have the floor plans in your packet, but based on Plan 1 and walking through the front elevation, the front of that house, they are kind of designed as a row house where the front porch and front doors in this development; each of the homes face St. John Street just like the garages. What we're doing is adding an 8 -foot porch on the front and we have a little study area on the ground floor next to the living room that has a little bump out. That little bump out we took from the existing home PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, March 23, 2016 Page 36 of 46