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by as much as 265 feet. He stated that he does not know how they could plot a <br />perception of what might happen any more accurately than that. <br />Mr. Berlogar stated that the second exhibit, copies of which he distributed to the <br />Commission and staff, shows variations from this Specific Plan blobs. He indicated that <br />half of the Toll Brothers development are outside of the Specific Plan blobs; ten of the <br />Greenbriar Homes development on the Heinz property are in the vineyard property, with <br />30 homes just outside of the blob; the Sarich property has a bonus lot, one more than in <br />the Specific Plan, with two lots completely outside the blob and the third closely outside <br />the blob; and half of the ten homes in the other Greenbriar development on the Hahner <br />property are in the vineyard, with a home on the open space on the property for which <br />nothing was designated in the Specific Plan. <br />Mr. Berlogar stated that he also prepared a rough drawing on Mr. Win's proposal <br />regarding the roadway. He indicated that engineering is not always easy in the hills; it <br />gets a lot tougher. He stated that Alternative No. 1 and Alternative No. 2 have 580 feet <br />of road that would change the grade, and going higher up the canyon would produce <br />450 feet of road, but all the existing utilities cannot get to that elevation. He then <br />pointed to the locations where the road proposed by Mr. Win would go, adding 850 feet <br />of roadway, new utilities for sanitary sewer and water, and a joint trench that would <br />require a 20 -foot deep excavation in Silver Oaks Court where his driveway intersects to <br />catch the manhole in front of Lot 2. He indicated that it would probably cost $1 million to <br />do all that grading, get all the permits, build a bridge, and build the retaining walls. <br />Peter MacDonald, representing the applicant, stated that they support the staff <br />recommendations, specifically the Alternative No. 1 design selected by the staff. He <br />indicated that this is the most environmentally sensitive and neighbor - sensitive two -lot <br />plan that they could come up with, working closely with City staff. He stated that he <br />believes the neighbors realize that the two -lot site plan has far less impacts than the <br />three -lot site plan. He added that what impresses him is that this planning process has <br />worked through a succession of iterations just the way it was supposed to, according to <br />his urban planning professors <br />Mr. MacDonald stated that the Vineyard Avenue Corridor Specific Plan filled in a <br />500 -acre map area with designated development bubbles surrounded by open spaces. <br />He indicated that the Specific Plan specified 189 new units and numerous policies <br />relating to tree preservation, open space preservation, visual preservation, and so on. <br />He added that now, the application is undergoing a PUD process to determine if that <br />Plan can be effectively implemented. <br />Mr. MacDonald stated that in the first iteration there was a Planning Commission Work <br />Session, and in that phase, the Berlogars, working with City staff, developed several <br />alternatives for consideration by the Planning Commission. He noted that the Planning <br />Commission was generally in favor of the conceptual alternative but gave guidance for <br />further refining that alternative to address specific concerns. He stated that that led to <br />the three variations before the Commission tonight. He indicated that staff has <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, February 12, 2014 Page 12 of 38 <br />