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Brian Dolan stated that following that vein, one of the reasons staff is comfortable with this is that in a shopping center, the standard applied out of the zoning ordinance is for every square foot, as if these were all one individual building built by themselves. He noted that the chances are that not all the occupants are going to be at 100- percent capacity at the same time. He further noted that usually, people would go to a couple of different places and not necessarily everybody going to one spot at the same time. He added that there is some efficiency in a small shopping center. He pointed out that it is not always perfect, as in the case of the Safeway shopping center on Bernal Avenue, where the end of the shopping center that has the most concentration of restaurants has a little congestion at lunchtime and maybe even at dinnertime. He added that he thinks that has to do with the mix of restaurants. Commissioner Allen inquired if some of the zoning use changes referenced on pages 14 and 15 of the staff report are changes staff is recommending at this stage or something staff is looking to the Commission for input. She further inquired if staff is comfortable with these changes. Ms. Bonn replied that the applicant is proposing to have these uses as permitted uses and that staff is comfortable with these changes and has incorporated them in the Conditions of Approval. She indicated that there are a couple of modifications; an example would be the hours of operation at convenience markets, which has been incorporated as a condition of approval. Chair Pearce noted that this was something the Commission went over at the Work Session. Commissioner O'Connor agreed. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED. John Pringle, E &S Ring, Applicant, thanked staff for a great deal of effort and collaborative work with the applicants over the last two- and -a -half years, starting with the Task Force meetings through the rezoning process and appearances in front of Planning Commission on multiple occasions. He added that staff was also involved in helping them organize community outreach multiple times, and the plan has evolved to what they think is a terrific plan and great for the community. He introduced the project team present tonight and available to answer questions: Ken Rodriguez of Ken Rodriquez and Partners, Project Architect for the retail development; Rob Steinberg of Steinberg Architects, Project Architect for the residential development; Ken Bush of Sares- Regis, the Lead Project Manager since the beginning of this year; Paul Letierri of Guzzardo Partnership, Landscape Architect; and Frank Auf de Maur, property owner, who has been trying to develop the site for many years and has auctioned the land to E &S Ring. He then handed the floor over to Mr. Steinberg. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, July 10, 2013 Page 5 of 21