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Chair Blank noted that was a really good point. Commissioner O'Connor commented that Commissioner Posson's statements make a lot of sense because there is no incentive for the builder to install the PVs and solar water heaters after the fact, and the cost just gets passed onto the renter. As for the rest of the project as he has seen it, he stated that he was pretty impressed with the fantastic job the developer has done and the nice complex they have come up with. He indicated that he understands the whole argument about affordability and that Option 1 would give about 12 to 15 percent, while Option 2 at 15 percent does not give quite as deep an affordability. He noted, however, that 15 percent has been the City's guidelines, and this is really not within the Planning Commission's purview. He stated that in this respect, he thinks the Planning Commission needs to step back from the affordability piece and let the Housing Commission send its recommendation to the Council. Commissioner Narum stated that she really likes the project and after seeing the color board, is happy with the mustard - yellow color, which looks a lot different than what she saw at the Work Session, and prefers it to adding the other color to soften it. With respect to the installation of the PV panels and solar water heater, she indicated that she understands Commissioner Posson's point, but she is trying to figure out where the balance is because she gets a little uncomfortable telling applicants what to do, particularly because they are meeting the required Green Building points. Chair Blank agreed and added that he thinks one of the challenges in this regard is that the Commission does not tell a developer who has met the required standard of 50 points what they have to do, and Commissioner Posson's proposal would be telling the developer how it should be done. He admitted this was a tough one and proposed that following the Commissioners' comments, he would like to re -open the public hearing and ask the developer what their incentive might be for installing the panels. Commissioner O'Connor suggested that those points could be swapped for other points. Commissioner Narum stated that she does not want to tell the developers how to engineer where they will put their Green points. Chair Blank agreed and added that if the Commission will start moving points around, then maybe the City should not have points and just get rid of the whole program. He noted that the ordinance says that they have to be above this threshold and they are good once they get there; but if the Commission does not like the way they got above the threshold, then the system needs to be changed. Commissioners Pearce and O'Connor agreed. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, March 27, 2013 Page 42 of 48