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involved, instead of coming up with some number that reflects an average over some period of time that is an absolute, which takes the reality out of it. Acting Chair Blank stated that he does not disagree with staff that it is very practical; however, he thinks it is the Commission's task to intellectualize about it. He noted that the problem is when there is a resident who has what is perceived to be a real problem, there has to be a standard that very specifically says 60 dBA, 70 dBA, or 74 dBA is the standard. He added that if there is no definition of how that standard is going to be measured, then there is no standard. Commissioner O'Connor stated that he also sees the problem with residents perceiving a problem and wanting to take action against a major violator, and business owners wants that wiggle room to work in their favor. Acting Chair Blank stated that this can work both ways: he does not want to see residents disadvantaged because they cannot lodge an appropriate complaint and have enforceability; and he also does not want to see businesses disadvantaged because they are saying they are within the Guidelines. Commissioner Pearce inquired if staff sees any disadvantages to creating some kind of guideline about self- monitoring for businesses in the Downtown. She noted that it seems like it might cut down on the complaints if businesses needed to self- monitor. Mr. Dolan replied that the only disadvantage is that some of the people who will take advantage of this whole package may be a nightclub that is just breaking even. He indicated that he does not think the equipment is all that expensive, but it is more the time it takes to do it. He noted, however, that he does not think this it is an overwhelming burden on a business. Commissioner Pearce stated that she is thinking about noise - monitoring for businesses that have outside amplified music, not for businesses such as Clover Creek. She inquired if staff would be amendable to adding language in that regard. Mr. Dolan replied that he does not think it is unreasonable. He noted that during the field trip, even the iPhone measurement was pretty good in the middle range. Commissioner Pearce stated that she understood having businesses come into compliance with these Guidelines would be done at the staff level and that staff is not doing anything outside these Guidelines but simply get the businesses up to the standard. Ms. Ott replied that was correct. She added that anything out of the standard would have to be handled as a Conditional Use Permit, which would then come before the Commission. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, November 14, 2012 Page 14 of 31