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story fire instead of a three -story. He inquired further, considering the amount of police <br />response to just two of the incidents at the club, if he expects that the City should have <br />that support. <br />Mr. Mull said no, not at all. He admitted that it does go to the analogy, but at the same <br />time, the building owner and they have a responsibility to operate the place in a very <br />safe way. He continued that to the extent that they have come to a conclusion similar to <br />what the Police have that the current element and crowd is causing some inherent <br />problems, they wish to change that. He noted that they have had a Conditional Use <br />Permit at this building since 1990, and the club has been run well in many different <br />ways for over a 22 -year period before this element came. He added that there were <br />probably fights and other incidences in the past but they were controlled. He indicated <br />that they do not expect to continue like this, that it is not acceptable to them, and that <br />they are taking a massive step to change to a Spanish rock /salsa type of environment <br />which will completely change the folks coming. He requested the Commission to let <br />them change it rather than knock it down to 300 and make it not possible to have a <br />sustainable business. <br />Chair Pentin stated that from his point of view, all he can judge anything from is past <br />performance. He added that he can look at whatever they are paying for music and <br />whatever their clientele is, but for him, they are still a business, just like Nordstrom's is a <br />business over at the mall, and he does not really care what music is played there or <br />what the clientele is, as long as it runs its business safely and properly. He addressed <br />Mr. Mull, indicating that he understands what he has presented to the Commission his <br />job to minimize incidences. He pointed out to Mr. Mull, however, that he has really only <br />spoken to two incidences as if there were just two of them in the last period of time, but <br />the nightclub overview from Lt. Knox indicates multiple days and multiple incidences. <br />He added that, for instance, when Mr. Mull mentioned that the fight was taken outside <br />but it was still on private property, there were two others mentioned in the overview that <br />were taken outside on private property. He asked Mr. Mull if that is okay too and if that <br />is controlled. <br />Mr. Mull said no, it is not okay. He indicated, however, that they finally controlled them. <br />He added that considering the history of the club, this operator has been operating for a <br />year and a half, and the only times being talked about occurred in less than two months. <br />Chair Pentin stated that for the Commission, the history in the last three months and not <br />just a couple of days, the club has had quite an interaction with the City's PD, and with <br />Lt. Knox in particular. <br />Mr. Mull replied that he has also read Lt. Knox's report and that it really is only those two <br />weekends; the others are very, very minor. <br />Chair Pentin indicated that they have a difference of opinion on that. <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, February 8, 2012 Page 13 of 23 <br />