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Commissioner Balch: I haven't, but I'II try to be brief. So some quick questions for you <br />Jenny - -The concrete patio and the associated landscape, I think we covered this, but no <br />permit required for that type of work? <br />Soo: Landscaping no. A concrete patio, I don't believe the building division issues <br />permit for that. <br />Commissioner Balch: Okay. A quick question also on that — several accessory <br />structures have been placed on the property line north and west. Can you elaborate? <br />Soo: We noticed, but there's no permit for it. <br />Commissioner Balch: Do they require a permit over a certain height? <br />Soo: They should come in for the permit and actually I saw it today. <br />Commissioner Balch: So if I build a structure of 121 square feet at my house without a <br />permit, typically that's a code enforcement issue, correct? <br />Soo: Correct. <br />Commissioner Balch: Has code enforcement issued a citation for that? You just told me <br />it required a permit. <br />Beaudin: Can I jump in here? The CUP process here is probably the appropriate way to <br />do that. So you can decide tonight if part of your action, if you choose to do so, to permit <br />those or to grant planning approval for those. And if you do, they would have to come in <br />and have to go through the building permit process. If you don't, then they would have <br />to remove those from the property. <br />Commissioner Balch: Okay, if I may, I've seen one or two of these actually in my time <br />despite my slight grey hair. So, typically when there's a structure without a permit they <br />can hold action on a code enforcement action so that they can go through approval. Do <br />you have a permit or application on file for a building and a design review request? <br />Soo: Not at this time. <br />Commissioner Balch: I don't see that attached to the staff report, so I see an item where <br />a permit is required, no code enforcement action or citation has occurred, and no <br />application is pending that would put a pause on City enforcement. <br />Beaudin: Code enforcement is completely complaint- driven. <br />Commissioner Nagler: I'm sorry Gerry, are they really permanent structures or are they <br />these temporary things that you can buy at Costco? <br />Beaudin: They're utility sheds and there are a number of them on the property. <br />EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, June 22, 2016 Page 9 of 52 <br />