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Commissioner O'Connor: I heard that from other neighbors tonight and I don't see that as a Miller vs. Mason issue I don't think but I could be wrong. But I heard that from other residents in the neighborhood, so I think other people had some issues with it. Commissioner Balch: So maybe staff can weigh in on that. Was the catering business part of the CUP concern with the ancillary uses I guess? Weinstein: My impression is that concerns regarding the catering use were mainly a function of the fact that occasionally catering employees were going outside and smoking, so again, that's something that could be restricted. I mean obviously there are some options there, right? You can get rid of catering completely as a use that's allowed on the site. You could restrict it further, but my impression was that the concern about catering was primarily in regards to employees going outside. Commissioner Balch: I guess it had some impact on the outside buildings. Commissioner O'Connor: I think those are storage buildings for the caterers. Commissioner Allen: They are. I just went by it. Two of them are, yes, they have catering materials there. Chair Ritter: So Item D is okay? Commissioner Balch: I think the concept that we're trying to figure out is that from my view, if they're cooking inside the building and exiting through the building from the southern portion to go elsewhere, I can see that as an ancillary use. I'm not having a problem. Where I don't understand and what I don't know with the site is, as you mentioned, due to the exterior use of the backyard, that northern side.... Commissioner O'Connor: The only other thing I can see is there could be some other issues from events going off the roof. I don't know or think they incurred any problems. Commissioner Nagler: I'm fine with the catering business that's relatively small. So you can define it by the number of employees.... Commissioner O'Connor: So I know we closed the public hearing, but I see a few people shaking heads like maybe the catering is an issue. I'm not sure if we.... Commissioner Nagler: I think at this point we're trying to decide. Let's keep going. Chair Ritter: Hours of operation? Commissioner Balch: So this is important because this is inside the building, right? If they use the patio and doors, the portion becomes moot so we just say that's out. Part 2. I'm on number 2 on page 2; Use of the Mason Lodge building inside, use of the patio and outdoor areas. I'm fine with staff's recommendation on the inside and we'll move on. EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, June 22, 2016 Page 37 of 52