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Ed Broome: I don't think I'II use all five minutes and I promise I won't bring up the Johnson Drive EDZ. So briefly, I live on Hawaii Court within Valley Trails. I'm sympathetic to the Miller's issue. I'm fairly passionate about it now and probably more passionate if I were in their proximity to the Masons. I think what I've discovered in just kind of listening to staff and listening to the interaction back and forth, the use of this as you just pointed out has morphed from a fraternal organization who's using the facility probably a majority of the percentage of time to a semi - public venue now where they have outside groups using the facility and majority of the time or at least an equal amount of time. I think the other thing I found interesting was the number of sheds on the property and they are not in the best condition. I think the result of those sheds being there is the lease agreement or rental agreement that they have with the catering company to use their commercial kitchen and yes they do obviously cater events off - site, but they're there a good percentage of the time using that kitchen which is kind of to me, you're splitting hairs on that use permit. Also the thing that I want to stress here is, it seems to me we have a loophole that once you get your initial use permit under a certain set of conditions under a certain precedent, you can kind of move away from that and start to loosely interpret that use permit as we're seeing here. So again, you start off with a fraternal organization or place of assembly for a religious body or what have you, and while because we can use it for that, I'm going to use it for this. I'm going to rent out our kitchen and I'm going to have vans sitting in the parking lot that are mechanically unsound for months at a time, so it kind of grows and grows and grows and now we have the issue that we have. And, you know, I don't envy your position. I don't envy the Miller's position. This is truly the definition of a quandary. What do we do and what precedent do we set for the rest of the City where we might have similar conflicts. I can only go back to what I would support personally and that would be a substantial re- working of this use permit, perhaps not a revocation outright at this point but something much different than it was in 1977 and much different than what staff is proposing now. Thank you. Commissioner Nagler: When you say much different, what then? Broome: I think the definitions need to be tightened up. I think the uses need to be tightened up. I think that perhaps a solution would be that the organization to whom it's issued to have to use it a majority of the time and that percentage is fixed. Let's say they have to use it 75 percent of the time for their meetings or their related events, ancillary uses per se, and then any outside uses or rentals or what have you would be a smaller percentage of that. So that change would allow for that organization to grow and contract and grow and contract over time. It would also define something. Right now we have a big, wide birth and it's up to interpretation as we've heard from staff, as we've heard from their attorney. It's defined but it's not defined, so that would be my suggestion. Commissioner Nagler: Thank you. Jann Bartow: I also live in Valley Trails and I'm a board member of the Valley Trails HOA, also known now as coalitions. This is a letter that was submitted back in 2014 just going through restated in regards to the board members' support for the Millers. It's dated September 14, 2014 and there was a meeting held by the Valley Trails volunteers HOA and there were approximately 60 people at that time that attended, which are EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, June 22, 2016 Page 21 of 52