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THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED. <br />Reverend Ron Culmer, St. Clare's Episcopal Church, stated that his congregation sits <br />adjacent to the Masonic Lodge and that they share the parking lot, which belongs to St. <br />Clare's, through a Joint Use Agreement. He indicated that this issue is difficult for the <br />leadership of St. Clare's because they like the Masons. He stated that St. Clare's has a <br />pre - school as part of its property, and at times when the school has maintenance <br />problems, the Masons have always been accommodating and allow the school children <br />to use their bathrooms and facilities. He noted that they generally get along very well; <br />however, the problem arises whenever catered parties are held at the Lodge, and the <br />Church ends up cleaning up alcohol bottles in their backyard and the parking lot the <br />following day. <br />Rev. Culmer recounted that they had a pre - school Christmas program event planned for <br />the evening that the Lodge was having the "Naughty or Nice" party and that the school <br />had to cancel its program because the "Naughty or Nice" party had been posted on the <br />Internet, and people were coming from all over. He stated that he is still hearing <br />complaints from parents who are furious about the event being canceled. <br />Rev. Culmer stated that he is interested in having a good neighborly relationship again <br />but that he was having some difficulty with some issues. He expressed concern about <br />the noise level and stated that he had made calls to police when things have gotten out <br />of hand. He requested that these particular types of parties never be allowed to take <br />place at the Lodge in the future. <br />Fred Schwartz, Masonic Lodge Board President, stated that they will conduct the sound <br />study but that he did not believe it would prove a lot because the re- creation of their one <br />mistake would need to be made, and he indicated that there would never be another <br />event of that type at the Lodge. With respect to Condition No. 1 of the Conditions of <br />Approval, he stated that they typically rent out the facility for weddings and anniversary <br />parties but do hold events such as art auctions or tool shows. He requested that the <br />language be tightened for that condition. <br />As regards Condition No. 2, Mr. Schwartz stated that they agree to do the acoustical <br />study; however, he believed spending any money for a professional consultant would be <br />extremely costly and is not necessary. He indicated that, as an alternative, they had <br />began discussions with a major building contractor who deals with noise - related issues <br />in high rise structures and that they expect to have a proposal shortly, which they will <br />share with the City. He noted that they have never been cited for any noise issues in <br />the past. He added that they have been recognized as good neighbors since 1979, that <br />they do not intrude on their neighbors' peace, and that by eliminating events as <br />stipulated in Condition No. 1, the noise issues would be eliminated. He stated that they <br />do not accept any claims from neighbors concerning excessive decibel readings due to <br />the fact that they have not been provided with any background calculations that take <br />EXCERPTS: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, March 25, 2009 Page 3 of 7 <br />