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Amos: Peters and Ray Street. If you're looking at those two other purple parcels, that's Ray Street. Chair Ritter: Okay Ray Street. Adam said there is a top 5. Do they want more offices in the downtown? Is that what you're saying? Weinstein: No, it's just the fact that the Office district in the Specific Plan hasn't responded well to market conditions. There was a sense that there was an over-supply of office space, that maybe Office district should be more flexible or less flexible. I mean, depending on who you talk to there are very different opinions. So there is a desire to look at what purpose the Office district serves and that might change in the future. Chair Ritter: And we don't know what the City Hall/Library area would turn into should they move across the street? Weinstein: Not yet. Chair Ritter: They are zoned Office right now, right? Commissioner O'Connor: They are, so I guess that's something I was looking at. If in this analysis the civic center does not stay zoned Office, it would seem bizarre that we would have the other side of the street have a strip of office where there's no other office. Weinstein: Right, exactly. So when we re-look at the DSP, we'll be taking into account other planning efforts in the city and in downtown and most prominently, the Civic Center Master Plan. Commissioner Nagler: If I could just add a quick comment. As part of the Civic Center/Library Task Force deliberations a request was made by City staff and it was answered in the presentation to the task force about potential uses of the current civic center property. It was certainly not definitive and it was no way intended to get a recommendation out of the task force because that is not the task force's place. But, what was interesting about their data was a reflection of what are the current market conditions and what might be appropriate uses based upon where demand exists as opposed to what's sort of perfect urban planning. The idea that there would be offices as part of the current civic center property was suggested by these consultants to not be the highest and best use of the land and the reason for that is they talked about the patterns of office use in Pleasanton and the market demands for small offices because obviously you're not going to put a high rise office building on the civic center site so you're, by definition, talking about insurance offices, accountant and lawyer offices and things like that and there isn't demand in the community for that kind of use of that property. I'm not saying that should dictate clearly our conversation tonight, but it's another data point about a piece of property directly across the street. Commissioner O'Connor: Sure, as we keep talking about vitality downtown, office doesn't usually generate the vitality you're talking about in a downtown location. Commissioner Allen: If I could just follow-up with that, so if it's not office then what are the choices—retail, mixed use or residential? EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, May 25, 2016 Page 4 of 22