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Balch: But at the same time when looking at the plan, there are 3.7 acres in the subject area that is evaluated. So even after 1.2 acre lots, you've accomplished—and I think to your point Adam about whether you're squishing that pinch point, yes, I think that particular pinch point is there but maybe you're putting two on one side and one on the other to accommodate that element. I don't know. Nagler: And candidly, I was not trying to get into the economics of the project but presumably, given that we've reduced a number of home sites, it's got to be more economical to cluster the homes than not. Houston: If I could ask staff these questions and maybe make sure I'm interpreting...there was discussion about the driveway. From the lower parcels there is no other driveway, so the driveway being discussed was the driveway going up to the church? Hagen: Yes. Houston: Okay, all right. For the five-unit project, the reason why we had designed the long court was to have a single point of entrance which we do think is safer, but also it got us there, to the other end of the parcel. With the testimony I heard, I heard some discussion about more than one entrance and there was one idea of having one entrance where they're more like that so it would basically serve two lots and there may be another entrance would conserve that third lot. So, did you hear where we could maybe have two entrances? We think one entrance with the five lots makes sense and it can pay for itself, but I could see a way you could have two entrances and one entrance would serve two of the lots and the other entrance would be the third because building that entire street for three lots is not feasible. Beaudin: So Mr. Houston, if I could jump in. I understand the question. I think that there's a couple of comments that I'll make and then I'll maybe make a proposal. The idea of the cost of the driveway isn't really going to factor into my ultimate design proposal for you, but what I'll say is that the design proposal that I have in mind shrinks the length of that court or that cul-de-sac pretty significantly and I think that with the three-unit design we can certainly shorten that up and still get you one access with up to three lots on it and it pretty much maintains your existing parcel configuration. Houston: Do you think it would move it from that location there? Beaudin: No. Houston: Okay, all right, so then it may not be essential to have more than one access. Beaudin: I think we can find a design that still gets you three lots. It's just not going to be as long a cul-de-sac. There still would be a court created and it would still be one point of access. It would be roughly the same position that you currently have it. Ritter: Thank you. I think we've got enough good info and I think staff will be able to work with you on it. Is that okay, Mr. Houston? EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, January 13, 2016 Page 21 of 22