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Vice-Mayor Brown voiced concern about the future drought conditions and noted this is why the Council is asking for a declaration for having water. Mr. Schroeder stated if he is penalized, he questioned everybody else who wants to build like Costco, Work Day, etc. He understands there is a risk they take which is a condition, but when there is no moratorium, they are willing to work with the City and would restrict themselves in that manner. Councilmember Narum asked if he reached out to Pastor Barris or other public and institutional users about the land, and Mr. Schroeder said they have not. Councilmember Pentin noted that Ponderosa had zoning and a plan and it would seem that the land would be very attractive to another congregation. Mr. Schroeder said they considered all options and ones which had less impacts and this is the reason for their current proposal to complement the existing neighborhood. Vice-Mayor Brown referred to the example of a "mega church" and said some are located in business parks because of its cost-effectiveness and lack of available land. She thinks Public and Institutional zoned land is highly coveted land and said in Ponderosa's newsletter it stated they looked at 8 options but that this option was selected by the leadership which stated, "If to a developer, there would be a higher value. If to another church, the value would be lower." She said it sounds like they are not really in the market to truly find another church. Mr. Schroeder said this is a community that values an integration of all of the different services and facilities and there would be significant opposition with the other proposals, so he thinks it makes sense to recognize that on this site there are limitations by what is not yet built when there is a surrounding neighborhood and they believe this plan is a better use of the land, given its compatibility and needs of the neighborhood. Vice-Mayor Brown asked and confirmed with Mr. Schroeder that Ponderosa purchased the land at a discounted price. Mayor Thome said the Council brought up earlier the separation between the houses and asked what current setbacks exist in the Ironwood neighborhood. Ms. Hardy said she believes the minimum is 5 feet in the Classics. Councilmember Olson noted it is 5 feet in the Village. She said the backyards are a little shorter and said there is a 10 foot minimum in Ironwood and this is about 8'8". She clarified with Vice-Mayor Brown that she did not recognize the 3 foot minimum referred to earlier. Ms. Hardy asked if the Council has a copy of the site plan for the master plan which was approved, stating she would like to point out what 80,000 square feet of campus is. Mr. Weinstein stated this is located in the staff report as Attachment A on page 4. Mr. Schroeder said the plan shows what is proposed to be built without any additional permitting process, intensity of uses, size and scope of those buildings and how they would be arranged on the site. He returned to Vice-Mayor Brown's reference of financing and to be clear, the church is seeking to do the right thing for this neighborhood. They have been a good partner and Ponderosa will walk away with less funds that they put into the project and it is not a "money making" endeavor. They invested in land, buildings, soft costs and what they are seeking is to make the best use of the remaining space while retaining the Public and Institutional use that has been built as a school. Lastly, they are trying to create a neighborhood to complement surrounding residents and for the corner at Valley and Busch. It will be a nice residential development and they believe the plan allows them to serve the community. He asked that the congregation simply raise their hands in light of his comments which represented majority support. Maurice Turner voiced opposition of the rezoning of the property and said Centerpointe is of importance to him. Pleasanton is multi-religious and multi-cultural and said there are many places to build homes. City Council Minutes Page 12 of 28 October 6, 2015