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Chair Allen stated that she too has struggled with this and that she has argued with <br /> herself on both sides. She indicated that she is going to start on an emotional side <br /> because she was thinking about this the last few months, and her emotional side <br /> without a doubt would go for Option 2: the Sunset Creek Lane connection should go in, <br /> and 100 percent of the Lund Ranch traffic should go there. She reasoned that they are <br /> long-held agreements, and the private agreement is irrelevant to her because the fact of <br /> the matter is, there have been long held PUDs, there is a traffic model that always for <br /> many decades has assumed this is the plan, and this is part of the General Plan's <br /> assumption for circulation. She added that it is clear that the CC&Rs for Sycamore and <br /> Bridle Creek address this, and there is a sign at the end of the road. <br /> Chair Allen stated that she has spent a lot more time thinking about Measure PP and <br /> reading it more carefully, talking to more people and looking at the Planning <br /> Commission deliberations when it was asked the question, and looking at both the <br /> Councils' discussions on this when Cindy McGovern and Matt Sullivan were on the <br /> Council versus the more recent Council. She indicated that she was almost there in <br /> terms of saying she could live with the vagueness in Measure PP since "roads" were not <br /> defined. She noted, however, that when she started looking at retaining walls, she just <br /> could not say that a retaining wall was not a structure. She stated that she spent today <br /> looking almost everywhere and did not find one place that it was not defined as a <br /> structure. With respect to roads, she stated that she could say roads are vague and <br /> that she can live with saying it is vague and could let her emotions trump that one. She <br /> indicated, however, that she cannot do it on retaining walls, and it is clear that this road <br /> requires retaining walls, and retaining walls are clearly a structure in Measure PP, in the <br /> General Plan, in the Municipal Code, and even industry-wide where a three-foot tall <br /> retaining wall would still be a retaining wall, which is a structure. <br /> Chair Allen stated that because Measure PP trumps all the agreements that have been <br /> reached before, she does not feel comfortable supporting Option 2 or 3, and would have <br /> to go with Option 1. She further stated that there are a couple of people that she has <br /> talked to who actually helped author Measure PP, and there are authors who believe <br /> strongly that a road is a structure, and both told her that when they were involved with <br /> Measure PP, their intention was not to preclude a road like Sunset Creek Lane; their <br /> intent was to preclude roads like Oak Grove and roads that can be seen by the general <br /> public. She added that they would be open if anyone else would create an initiative <br /> essentially saying what Measure PP says and would further define whether a road is a <br /> structure; but it would essentially legally exclude or exempt the Lund Ranch project from <br /> Measure PP. She indicated that this would carry pros and cons and could cause even <br /> more confusion, and it would drag out this process; but the good side of it would be it <br /> would create closure and might be a way to have a win/win with both sides. <br /> Chair Allen stated that she truly believes that the intent of most people would be that <br /> this road would be all right; but the language that is written defines a retaining wall as a <br /> structure, and a retaining wall is clearly needed to build that road, unless the whole hill <br /> is graded, which is contrary to the intent of the initiatives and hillside protection. <br /> EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES, June 24, 2015 Page 35 of 45 <br />