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ATTACHMENT 3 here. He reiterated that he wants to keep it simple and would like to discuss having some flexibility. He added that he does not want to set fees for the City, but he does not want this to be the same as a Conditional Use Permit fee as it sounds awfully high. He noted that staff will go out and inspect the first time, but up until now, nobody has inspected anything and there have been almost zero complaints. He indicated that he certainly does not want to deter anybody from starting a beehive. Commissioner Balch stated that he thinks the element of a high barrier to entry is already present by the fact that the beekeeper needs to buy the hive and the queen. He indicated that he finds the fee to be slightly on the outrageous side but understands what staff is doing, which is more than what they are doing,for dog licensing. Commissioner O'Connor stated that his friend did/notbuy bees; he took bees that were swarming elsewhere and out of trees, houses, and eaves and.brought them home. He indicated that does not want to make this difficult and added that he was not quite sure when why staff wanted to track whether it all;worked since there:have not been any complaints. He indicated, however, that it is fine that the City wants„to know where all the beehives are or to make sure that they are set up right, but he would like to make it cost-effective. N.: Commissioner Balch stated that this is.why,making the queen change was something he was not keen on. Commissioner O'Connor stated that beekeepers who know what they are doing will change their queen outwhenitis time; otherwise, they..will not be productive. Acting Chair Ritter noted:that the Co__mmissioners are all in favor of this but it is the price that they are not quite in favor of. Commissioner O'Connor,reiterated that he would like to keep it simple and really does not like-limiting it to only.two hives for those who have a larger lot. He indicated that there ought to be some mechanism.to give the City some flexibility, for example, taking them on a case-by-case basis;,especially for big lots and since a huge flood of applicants coming in is not expected. Commissioner Balch apologized that he might have diverted the Commission a bit more. He indicated that in terms of the whole thing, he is very supportive of moving forward as a City. He add that there are a few things he wanted clarified as mentioned earlier, such as the height of the stack versus the entire height of the structure, and how they are to be measured. Acting Chair Ritter indicated that the maximum height is four feet. Commissioner Balch stated that he actually does not agree with the four feet maximum and asked what the height of three of those boxes and a reasonable stand would be. DRAFT EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES, 1/28/2015 Page 10 of 14