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by as much as 265 feet. He stated that he does not know how they could plot a <br /> perception of what might happen any more accurately than that. <br /> Mr. Berlogar stated that the second exhibit, copies of which he distributed to the <br /> Commission and staff, shows variations from this Specific Plan blobs. He indicated that <br /> half of the Toll Brothers development are outside of the Specific Plan blobs; ten of the <br /> Greenbriar Homes development on the Heinz property are in the vineyard property, with <br /> 30 homes just outside of the blob; the Sarich property has a bonus lot, one more than in <br /> the Specific Plan, with two lots completely outside the blob and the third closely outside <br /> the blob; and half of the ten homes in the other Greenbriar development on the Hahner <br /> property are in the vineyard, with a home on the open space on the property for which <br /> nothing was designated in the Specific Plan. <br /> Mr. Berlogar stated that he also prepared a rough drawing on Mr. Win's proposal <br /> regarding the roadway. He indicated that engineering is not always easy in the hills; it <br /> gets a lot tougher. He stated that Alternative No. 1 and Alternative No. 2 have 580 feet <br /> of road that would change the grade, and going higher up the canyon would produce <br /> 450 feet of road, but all the existing utilities cannot get to that elevation. He then <br /> pointed to the locations where the road proposed by Mr. Win would go, adding 850 feet <br /> of roadway, new utilities for sanitary sewer and water, and a joint trench that would <br /> require a 20-foot deep excavation in Silver Oaks Court where his driveway intersects to <br /> catch the manhole in front of Lot 2. He indicated that it would probably cost $1 million to <br /> do all that grading, get all the permits, build a bridge, and build the retaining walls. <br /> Peter MacDonald, representing the applicant, stated that they support the staff <br /> recommendations, specifically the Alternative No. 1 design selected by the staff. He <br /> indicated that this is the most environmentally sensitive and neighbor-sensitive two-lot <br /> plan that they could come up with, working closely with City staff. He stated that he <br /> believes the neighbors realize that the two-lot site plan has far less impacts than the <br /> three-lot site plan. He added that what impresses him is that this planning process has <br /> worked through a succession of iterations just the way it was supposed to, according to <br /> his urban planning professors <br /> Mr. MacDonald stated that the Vineyard Avenue Corridor Specific Plan filled in a <br /> 500-acre map area with designated development bubbles surrounded by open spaces. <br /> He indicated that the Specific Plan specified 189 new units and numerous policies <br /> relating to tree preservation, open space preservation, visual preservation, and so on. <br /> He added that now, the application is undergoing a PUD process to determine if that <br /> Plan can be effectively implemented. <br /> Mr. MacDonald stated that in the first iteration there was a Planning Commission Work <br /> Session, and in that phase, the Berlogars, working with City staff, developed several <br /> alternatives for consideration by the Planning Commission. He noted that the Planning <br /> Commission was generally in favor of the conceptual alternative but gave guidance for <br /> further refining that alternative to address specific concerns. He stated that that led to <br /> the three variations before the Commission tonight. He indicated that staff has <br /> EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, February 12, 2014 Page 9 of 18 <br />