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Commissioner O'Connor stated that what he finds interesting about this calculation is that even with the highest development, Alternative 3, which got most of the criticism at the last meeting, it would be off only by about less than 200 units, which is really not a lot of difference. He noted that all four Alternatives are pretty close in terms of what would need to be found in the rest of the City. Mr. Dolan stated that he understood Commissioner O'Connor's point. He explained that the average is approximately 250 per project, and in chunks of 250, the average would be somewhere around eight acres. He noted that these should be thought of in terms of how many of these projects are really going to be available. He questioned if, for example, one apartment is built on 400 acres of developable land, if it would be necessary to have that few to reflect the character of the rest of the town. He displayed the graphic that staff had prepared for the Housing Element Update that shows where multi-family is concentrated within the City, and replicating that character is not necessarily a mathematical equation. He noted that one can drive up the west side of the City for miles and not see any multi-family development; then driving up into Hacienda and around there, there is a little more, and there are some in the Downtown. He added that the experience varies quite a bit, depending on where one is in town to derive the character based on the type of housing. Commissioner O'Connor noted that it is interesting that although there is nothing in the East area, it is still being studied. He further noted that there is not a lot that have been rezoned before that is even close to that area. Mr. Dolan noted that was correct. He indicated that there has been a fair amount of comment, and if the quadrant defined as EastNVest is split by Santa Rita Road and North/South is split by Stanley Boulevard, there is not a lot in there. He stated that it has been pointed out by Task Force members and even by a previous Councilmember that the Auf der Maur site, which will be coming before the Commission in the near future, is pretty close; and then the Irby property will come forward in the next round and rates very highly for consideration, which is not too far away either. Mr. Dolan emphasized that his point remains that the East Pleasanton Specific Plan area is the only wide-open space that the City has left. He indicated that Commissioner O'Connor's point that the differences are not that much is a good one; however, it is something that the City needs to be sensitive to when considering how many apartment projects of this size can be put out there and still maintain the character so it still feels like the rest of Pleasanton. He reiterated that he just wants the Commission to have another chance to absorb that information and see if there was anything else it wanted to share with the Council. Commissioner O'Connor stated that something that came up quite a bit at the last meeting was that the Commission realized that it will be necessary to come back to the entire City, but it does not want to necessarily have to come back to the East side after it has been planned. He added that the Commission was thinking that when all the rest EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, June 12, 2013 Page 4 of 13