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Mr. Rajagopalan then referred to a claim made earlier that Anne Fox was not a signer of the document. He stated that he has known people who have worked with Ms. Fox and contributed some money towards the campaign, and he knows she was a main author. Mr. Rajagopalan stated that if Lund Ranch can get an access without violating any other existing Measures, it should go ahead and do so, even if it is a hassle for other neighborhoods such as Ventana Hills or Mission Hills. He questioned if City planners, who obviously went to great lengths to get some educated city planning, were taught in school that streets are structures. He concluded that he heard tonight about the many promises made by the Council and the City, and having been a Pleasanl:on resident for only 12 years, he does not know much of the City's history before then and would be very much interested to see these documents. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED. Commissioner Narum stated that she does not have the Measure PP document in front of her and believes that it states that it supersedes anything in the General Plan. She inquired if that basically means that any documents that were in place up at that point would be superseded by Measure PP. Ms. Harryman replied that was correct; more specifically, any General Plan that was in conflict with what Measure PP said would no longer be effective, including any Specific Plans. Commissioner Olson referred to the first slide presented which talked about ridgeline setback and drew a distinction between ground line and horizontal line. He stated that he understood that ground line runs with the contour of the ridge and inquired how the horizontal line is measured. Mr. Dolan confirmed that ground line runs with the contour of the ridge. He continued that the horizontal line would be measuring from the top of each structure and comparing that to the setback line on a topographic map; and depending on which direction it is compared to makes it complicated. He noted that staffs position is that it would be difficult to measure the horizontal line, and staff is not recommending that the Commission keep it simple and stick with the ground line because that is more consistent with the actual wording of Measure PP. Commissioner Olson indicated that he does not understand it. He noted that the Commission already discussed whether it should be measured from the foundation or the top of the house, and it was in agreement that it should be the top of the house. He presented his view and questioned, if a house is supposed to be 100 feet below the top of the ridge, why it cannot be measured from the top of that house to the top of the ridgeline that it is directly below, and it has to be 100 feet from the top of the ridge at that point. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, March 13, 2013 Page 19 of 35