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Jay Hertogs stated that he is a blue-collar worker and read a prepared statement into the record as follows: "My name is Jay Hertogs. I'm here with my wife, Michelle, and many of our neighbors from the Mission Park area. My wife and I have lived in Mission Park for the last 24 years. We're here tonight to show our support for the City's staff report that a street is not a structure. I know my wife and I voted for PP and QQ to help protect our beautiful ridge which we both use all the time. I read the proposition and believe that PP and QQ were meant to stop residential and commercial properties, not roads that had been in the City plan for many years. Thank you." Allen Roberts stated that the last time he was before the Commission was on February 27th, and he could not recall what he had on that date which made him speak early, and it reminded him later that that, ironically enough, he was going out to the appeal of the Oak Grove property with the California Appellate Court. Mr. Roberts handed the Commissioners a picture of a ridge. He stated that in this process, he has argued with the Commission members and staff that since this ordinance is about ridgeline protection, it seems appropriate to have a good definition of a ridge. He reminded the Commission for the third time that if the definition staff has proposed was applied, the Pleasanton Ridge would not be a ridge and would not be protected. He stated that he knows the Pleasanton Ridge is not a subject of this ordinance because it is already protected by a park; but if the most important ridge in town does not fall into the definition of a ridge proposed by staff, then he submits that the definition is broken. Referring to Commissioner Posson's earlier question on how staff's proposed definition of "ridge and ridgelines" differs from what was in place in 2008, and staff's response that they were very close, Mr. Roberts stated that there is a huge change, and the huge change is this concept that once a ridge starts going down it stops being a ridge; and that is what makes the Pleasanton Ridge not be a ridge by this definition. Mr. Roberts stated that when he first gave the same picture to the Commission, there was a suggestion of preparing an inventory of what ridges would be subject to Measure PP. He indicated that he has inventoried it, and it is the picture that he just distributed to the Commissioners. He continued that it is a pretty simple process: he went to Google Maps; he pulled out a terrain map, and the ridges really pop out. He noted that the staff report includes a copy of the picture he just gave to the Commission, except that this is on a high contrast printer, and the ridges just completely jump out. He submitted that based on this picture, it is pretty easy to do an inventory. Mr. Roberts stated that his proposal is that the fight as to what is a ridge and what is not be done now, as opposed to staffs proposal to postpone this inventory and have a fight on every application. He argued that this would not be in anybody's best interest. He indicated that if he were a developer, he would want to know where he can develop and PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, March 13, 2013 Page 10 of 35