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Mr. Bartel referred to Councilmember Cook-Kallio's earlier question, which he interpreted to be whether <br /> it would be worthwhile to hold back the advanced PERS contribution if the City knew the PERS <br /> investment performance to be substandard relative to the City's. He cautioned first and foremost that he <br /> is not an investment advisor. He explained that while the City has at times outperformed CaIPERS, <br /> CaIPERS has historically earned substantially more than the City has. Actuaries deal in probabilities <br /> and the probability is that CaIPERS will continue to outperform the City more years than not. <br /> Vice-Mayor Thorne said he is often asked by the public what the City has the ability to control and <br /> negotiate with respect to these agreements and what it must wait for the state to do in order to effect <br /> change. <br /> Mr. Bartel explained that the City participates in the CaIPERS pension plan and as such, can only <br /> contract with CaIPERS for the menu of benefit formulas that are defined in the code. The hybrid plan <br /> that Mr. Fialho referred to earlier is not yet in the code and therefore not an option at this time. He <br /> explained that 401K style plans are referred to as defined contributions where the member or <br /> employees assume investment, mortality, and other risk. CaIPERS offers a defined benefit program <br /> which is where the plan sponsor (the City) assumes the investment and mortality risk. <br /> Vice-Mayor Thorne opened the public hearing. <br /> Bart Hughes said he is sad and disappointed to see the same broken public process and the same <br /> positive spin on a contract that continues to protect a class of employees to the detriment of everyone <br /> else. The assumptions presented are meager in the face of the huge hole the City faces and that they <br /> fail to take into account CaIPERS' poor investment returns this year, the change in investment <br /> assumptions, and potential impacts of AB 2541. He was offended that such an incomplete report from <br /> the actuary could be put in front of the public and, while it presents only a best-case scenario, even that <br /> is not enough. He asked for a transparent and proper public debate on these agreements and for the <br /> Council to explain to future Pleasanton residents and employees that they will be paying more for less <br /> in order to protect a class of employees. He said this protected class received raises all the way <br /> through the first part of the financial crisis and had their pensions retroactively increased 67%, for an <br /> average annual cost of$235,000 per employee. <br /> David Miller thanked staff for the presentation but said he heard nothing about where the City's current <br /> unfunded liability stands which in his mind is something that should be discussed at every meeting. He <br /> is concerned that the City is in a hole so deep that these modest adjustments will not help and supports <br /> Mr. Hughes' request for a public debate. He noted the upcoming election and that this Council is <br /> leaving a huge fiscal problem for the next to resolve. He said he would ask the following of all Council <br /> candidates: 1) What is the most important issue facing Pleasanton today and in the future? 2) Does the <br /> candidate truly believe in and support meaningful pension reform that will provide the City with more <br /> tools and the flexibility to address these costs? 3) If elected, will the candidate use their position to be a <br /> leader in educating the citizenry and fighting for Pleasanton at the state level? <br /> Kay Ayala said she was on the Council when the situation began in the early 2000s, that it happened <br /> overnight in government terms, and that it can be fixed the same way. She said the Council was lied to <br /> at that time when it was told it would cost the citizens nothing to adopt 3% at age 50. Staff lied to the <br /> Council when it was told that they had to accept those changes. She sympathized with Mr. Hughes and <br /> Mr. Miller for believing years ago that this Council would be honest and put together an effective long- <br /> term plan. She asked whether the Council has established a long-term plan and whether any Council <br /> members or candidates have accepted contributions or support from the unions whose salaries and <br /> benefits they set. Proper public debate is a thing of the past and it is time for the Council to stand up <br /> and reveal to the public where they stand and what was said in Closed Session. <br /> Howard Long congratulated staff and the Council on recognizing what Mr. Fialho described as an <br /> unsustainable pension. He suggested that medical costs need not be nearly as great as predicted and <br /> City Council Minutes Page 8 of 19 August 21, 2012 <br />
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