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Mr. Dolan noted that it might not be necessary to address Chair Narum's concern because HCD allows the City to have up to 50 percent of its housing inventory designated as mixed-use with the understanding that it could go the other way. He added that just like on the Hacienda sites, they will be counted but it could go the other way as office is still allowed. He indicated that if that happens, because of the Settlement Agreement, the City would need to find another site to replace the units in that particular case. He stated that what it comes down to is that it is not required, and when the City gets to that topic, staff will have to pick up the right number to insert for this site somewhere within the envelope of what the City will approve. Chair Narum commented that the way to work with it is to designate it as mixed-use. Mr. Dolan stated that it could be part of the 50 percent, and HCD expects that amount of uncertainty. Commissioner Blank inquired, for planning purposes, if building the extension is like a 15-year project. John McPartland, member of the BART Board of Directors for District 5, stated that for BART to be able to build conventional BART to Downtown Livermore immediately, BART would have to print its own money. He indicated that they are at a juncture where they are working now to determine what the best combination is for phasing the project, going as far as they can, and having intermodal connections with other transit venues to be able to basically show the powers that be at the national and state levels as well as the Metropolitan Transportation Commission that BART is moving forward. He stated that BART hopes to be putting the phased project into operation substantially sooner than ten years. Commissioner Blank stated that the BART plan showed a station in downtown Livermore and a station by the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) as their preferred sites. He noted that it seemed to him that the station downtown has a fair amount of track running underground and obviously those on the freeway is on a grade. Mr. McPartland replied that it was not a fair amount but almost all of it is underground in the downtown area; however, this is subject to change. He stated that the existing plan is to leave the freeway at Portola Avenue, go down Portola Avenue, be underground at a station in the downtown area, and then exit at some point out of the immediate threshold of the downtown area before it comes back up to grade. Commissioner Blank inquired whether the time at which the Dublin/Pleasanton BART station is no longer the end BART station is the point at which the downtown Livermore station becomes active, even if the station at the LLNL has not been built, or does the whole project get turned on at the same time. Mr. McPartland replied that there are several caveats which would end up impacting on that. He stated that based on what he has seen and perceives, if the lights were turned EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, MAY 25, 2011 Page 13 of 18