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Chair Olson asked the Commissioners if they were agreeable to this, and they indicated <br />that they were. <br />Commissioner Pearce requested that staff ensure there is detailing on all four sides that <br />is consistent with the type of house proposed for the three lots. <br />Commissioner O’Connor stated that while his preference would have been to go more <br />custom, he was supportive of going with the three lots. He requested that staff ensure <br />that the same guidelines are used and adhered as was required of other homeowners. <br />Commissioner Pearce inquired if Ponderosa is proposing to withdraw the design review <br />applications for two of the houses. She further inquired if the Commission could craft a <br />motion regarding the three sites or if the Commission would have to do a separate <br />motion for the other two sites since they have not been withdrawn yet. <br />Ms. Harryman stated that there are five different applications and she was not sure if <br />Ponderosa was planning to withdraw two of them. She added that since all these <br />applications are appeals, the Commission could uphold the appeal on Lots 5 and 10 <br />and deny the appeal for Lots 1, 2 and 4. She inquired if the elevations proposed for <br />Lots 1, 2, and 4 would remain exactly the same. <br />Ms. Hardy stated that they plan to keep the same elevations on Lots 1, 2 and 4 and are <br />withdrawing their applications for Lot 5 [PAP-141/PDR-886] and Lot 10 <br />[PAP-140/PDR-887]. <br />Mr. Benzel stated that the issue of massing that was brought up earlier has not been <br />addressed. He noted that if a two-story home were to be built, there would be <br />significant single-story roof lines, and massing would be significant on the first floor. He <br />indicated that the Craftsman home being built is the best of the three, but he would not <br />necessarily say that it had a significant first-story massing. He noted that it has a <br />single-story garage which will be 20 feet by 22 feet on a home that is 4,600 square feet, <br />which puts the first-floor to second-floor ratio just barely over 54-55 percent, which is not <br />even livable area. He noted that if the livable area massing were considered, the first <br />floor to second floor ratio would still be under 50 percent. He indicated that he believes <br />the massing ratio in Hacienda is basically 50 percent, including a few feet of changes in <br />the living room. <br />Mr. Benzel stated that when he worked with Mr. Townsend on his [Mr. Benzel’s] home, <br />Mr. Townsend had indicated that the Planning Commission would probably not approve <br />anything under a 60-percent-40-percent ratio, excluding the garage, which translates to <br />the living area had to be 40 percent or less upstairs and 60 percent downstairs. He <br />noted there are significant foundation costs, in addition to wainscoting costs, for a house <br />of a different size, and he did not feel this had been addressed with the proposed <br />Ponderosa homes. <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, March 10, 2010 Page 14 of 25 <br /> <br />