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Commissioner Narum recalled that there were recycling rates as high as 80 percent. She noted that if the City's ordinance is 50 percent, she wants to get to a point where this is what is in place, and someone coming forward knows this is what they must meet and that the City is "creeping" on them. Mrs. Rondash stated that it is part of staff's recommendation to not require the initial pre - permitting review. She added that those documents would therefore not be incorporated into a review packet that comes before a discretionary hearing but would only be incorporated into the building permit plan sets. She noted that in this sense, there would be no information for that debate to start happening. She added that having it in the City's existing code provides people with the knowledge upfront of what they need to meet. She noted that this would eliminate the opportunity for those discussions to happen, and they would have a specific standard already in place in the code. Commissioner Narum indicated that this makes her want an amendment even more to include that the buildings be photovoltaic- ready. Commissioner Pearce agreed. Mrs. Rondash indicated that there are also items in the City's current system that have more than one point assigned to them. She noted that a CALGreen measure that achieves two or three points in the current program would be an increase in point value, but there would still be only one measure. The Commissioners acknowledged the amount of staff work that went into the development of the green building amendments. Mrs. Rondash advised that comments at tonight's meeting would be responded to verbally or in writing at the September 29` meeting. EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, September 22, 2010 Page 9 of 9