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would require BART to purchase a portion of the site from the County. Mr. Quint said that <br /> various types of easements would be considered if that route were chosen. He noted that the <br /> current design utilizes only a small stretch of the site and is a worst -case scenario. <br /> Councilmember Thorne thanked him for referring to the Chain of Lakes as such, rather than a <br /> quarry area. He said it has the potential to be an incredible recreation area with housing and <br /> perhaps light industry and advised caution when considering that particular route. <br /> Councilmember Sullivan inquired about the rationale of the Chain of Lakes and Stanley Road <br /> alignment. Mr. Quint said that alignment has been studied for over 30 years and most recently <br /> in the regional rail plan as the shortest route for connecting BART to ACE. He said that was the <br /> primary interest and that other alternatives were added throughout the process and as a result <br /> of suggestions by the City of Livermore. <br /> Councilmember Sullivan said the route through El Charro and Stanley does not appear to be the <br /> shortest. Mr. Quint said different alignments were studied to reach Isabel /Stanley, with this <br /> pursued in the greatest detail. <br /> Councilmember Sullivan said he would like to better understand the benefits of that route versus <br /> those that are more northerly. He presumed the City of Livermore desired the economic benefits <br /> that could result from TOD in its downtown and requested an analysis of its benefits to <br /> Livermore versus regional benefits from remaining on 1 -580. Mr. Quint said the DEIR studies <br /> land use impacts but that the City of Livermore, through its own workshop process, has <br /> obtained consultants to examine the regional benefits of all 5 sites. <br /> Councilmember Sullivan said is seemed more appropriate for BART to do so. Mr. Quint directed <br /> him to the Land Use section of the DEIR which considers the potentials for each site. <br /> Councilmember Sullivan asked him to expand on his earlier description of the construction <br /> timeline. Mr. Quint had no answer, said it is heavily dependent upon funding, and estimated at <br /> least another two years to create the project specific EIR. <br /> Councilmember Sullivan requested a broad estimate such as 10, 20, or 30 years. Mr. <br /> McPhartland said 10 or 20 years out is a strong possibility; that he once heard an estimate of 24 <br /> years, and it is directly proportionate to whether or not the goals and incremental parts of the <br /> project can be met. He reiterated that projected costs are in 2009 dollars and said that funding <br /> will of course be a primary hurdle. In order for any of the alternatives to work there must be <br /> political will and consensus from all parties, funding, short- and long -term ridership, and an <br /> intermodal connection with at least the ACE train to sustain that ridership. <br /> To Councilmember Sullivan's earlier question, Mr. McPhartland said the benefits to the City of <br /> Livermore are a political decision that he cannot speak to. BART has only been able to project <br /> ridership at that location, but the citizens of Livermore have provided a good deal of input on the <br /> pros and cons associated with this. There was a strong desire to avoid impacts that would <br /> destroy the current downtown ambience, which is how the concept of undergrounding the <br /> Portola alignment came about. He conceded that it would be feasible although very costly. <br /> There has also been discussion as to whether or not any parking lot at all in the downtown area <br /> would be recommended, again to preserve the existing ambience. He noted that the stand- <br /> alone alternatives could only be incremental shortstops in the larger project because neither <br /> would meet all of the identified goals. <br /> City Council Minutes Page 7 of 13 December 15, 2009 <br />