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Commissioner Tenbrink was also concerned about liability issues and how they would be handled by the City. Ms. Andrade -Wax indicated that this was also a concern for the City and a reason why the City would want to be provided with a copy of an applicant's original licensing application and exemption to make sure that applicants are not misrepresenting facts, and would also allow the City to validate the information. Commissioner Detweiler questioned how the City would handle existing businesses, if these requirements were for new business. Ms. Stern and Ms. Andrade -Wax advised that once a policy is approved, it would apply to all new applicants and if Council directed, existing businesses could be "grandfathered" in over time as well. Commissioner Rowland confirmed how criteria would evolve and was provided information about exemptions and the types of businesses and criteria that would be involved. Commissioner Nagler had questions about how the City would act should all requirements be met by an applicant, but issues were raised by the state and expressed his concerns about the City getting into this kind of business. Ms. Stern provided details of "Use Permit" requirements that could be imposed by the City. Commissioner Rowland felt that providing consumer education and information might be a role for the City to consider. Ms. Andrade -Wax provided information about the City's association with Child Care Links, the information they provide, and additional information that could be provided by the City through the Activities Guide, etc. Commissioner Nagler recommended the City draft an ordinance mandating that all businesses provide a disclosure document to the participants in their programs indicating that they are a licensed or exempt business. Chairperson Kennedy opening the meeting for Public Comment at 8:02 p.m. Carol Thompson, Child Care Links, Pleasanton indicated Child Care Links was also concerned about the issues that have been raised by staff and members of the Commission. She liked the recommendation made by Commissioner Nagler and would even suggest that businesses be required to post information indicating whether they are a licensed or exempt business. Ms. Thompson provided details about a "Trust- Line" process and the information and "checks and balances" it makes available to agencies regarding offenses and advised that Child Care Links would be willing to help in any way they can in providing information. She also noted that Child Care Links does not make recommendations to parents about child care facilities, but rather provides them with information. Unfortunately some parents tend to go on "blind faith" when making their decisions. Ms. Thompson advised that very little over -sight is provided by the state, and they go strictly on information provided by an applicant. EXCERPTS: Human Services Commission Minutes, May 6, 2009 Page 3 of 4