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Mr. Roush stated that there is certainly a difference of opinion held by city attorneys <br /> throughout the State concerning what the proper interpretation is for Section 66427.4 <br /> and the interplay between that Section and Sections 66427.5 and 66428.1. He noted <br /> that the Palm Springs' decision indicates that Section 66427.4 did not apply because it <br /> was not considered a residential conversion, and it does not talk about Section 66428.1. <br /> He indicated that he thinks if an argument were to be made that this conversion should <br /> not go through, the Commission would look to Section 66428.1 where 2/3 support is <br /> needed in order to eliminate the ability of the city to say no. Cities have made the <br /> argument at the trial court level unsuccessfully, but in the absence of an Appellate <br /> Court's decision, if the City takes the position that Sections 66427.4 or 66428.1 apply, <br /> the City will likely be joining in the litigation stream. <br /> Mr. Roush stated that he could not advise, based upon the current state of the law, that <br /> this is the safest course of conduct. He noted that in his conversations with attorneys <br /> who represent cities exclusively in mobile home law, there are arguments to be made <br /> with respect to the applicability of Section 66427.5, but to get there it's going to take an <br /> adverse decision at a City Council level, taking it to a trial court level, and then getting it <br /> to a Court of Appeal. He stated that this is a route the City may or may not be <br /> interested in following and that his role is to provide the best guidance in terms of what <br /> the current law is, recognizing that the way new law is made is that cities challenge the <br /> status quo. <br /> Chair Pearce referred to the Palm Springs decision and inquired if this primarily related <br /> to the economic implications of the residents who chose not to buy. She stated that she <br /> thought any broader discussion by the court was mostly because they were only asked <br /> to discuss a very narrow question and that there seems to be a lot of reliance by the <br /> applicants on this case that is fairly narrow. <br /> Mr. Roush agreed. <br /> Chair Pearce stated that she was aware of the murkiness around Section 66427.5 and <br /> the legislative history surrounding the purpose of the survey. <br /> Mr. Roush stated that there is legislative history that supports both the applicant's point <br /> of view and the point of view of some cities that feel it only should apply in a broader <br /> context. He added that the applicant's side of it has had better success at the trial court <br /> level than have cities at this point. <br /> Commissioner Fox stated that she has issues as to whether the survey was bona fide <br /> and whether there was support. She added that the law states the applicant should <br /> obtain a survey of support of residents, and she did not consider 20 percent of 208 units <br /> to be a survey of support. She noted that only one in five residents or less actually <br /> supports the conversion, and in terms of the survey that was conducted, she would not <br /> consider the survey valid if they are being asked now to respond on something that will <br /> occur in the future. <br /> EXCERPTS: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, February 25, 2009 Page 16 of 19 <br />